I wrote a dumb shell script that wraps Canonical's multipass to do what Docker Desktop used to. Its limited but reliable on my M1 mac.
Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
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Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#22One of the past maintainers of minikube here. Minikube, while targeted towards Kubernetes developers, also provides all the features you'd want here. It also takes away most of the pain from virtual machine management w/ native hypervisors. If you're looking for customizability (boot image, docker version, container runtime), minikube is probably your best bet. It even comes with some rudimentary file-sharing and por…
Huh, I thought kind was the spiritual successor to minikube (which I used fondly years ago). When should one reach for minikube over kind today?
kind (Kubernetes-in-Docker) still requires Docker, so its not a replacement for Docker Desktop (Windows/macOS). You'll need to run kind in minikube or kind in Docker Desktop.
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
What drew you to switch up your workflow? I am on a m1 macbook air and I've been using Docker + Docker Desktop without much issue, and my use-case is a little simpler than yours (only running single containers at a time). I'm genuinely curious to learn more about what these tools (Colima, podman) help enable. If I'm missing out on a performance boost, I'd definitely check them out.
In case you missed it the license terms for Docker Desktop have changed and require companies with ~250 employees to start paying for it: https://www.docker.com/blog/updating-product-subscriptions/
gotcha. i was aware, but doesn't apply to my current circumstance.
is that the motivator for most, then?
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#24This won't work on the new M1 macs since it uses VirtualBox
Yeah :( Ever since I switched to an M1, I haven't found a way to reliably build and run x86_64 containers on it. Docker desktop with Qemu is not just painfully slow, it's also very buggy and some containers just can't be built without crashing. Is there any alternative?
I haven't tested it, but Lima purports to support it:
https://github.com/lima-vm/lima/blob/master/docs/multi-arch....
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
In case you missed it the license terms for Docker Desktop have changed and require companies with ~250 employees to start paying for it: https://www.docker.com/blog/updating-product-subscriptions/
And in those larger companies, just paying for the "coffee a month" may not be an option, since they insist all licenses are company owned and it's less effort to change my docker VM wrapper than get shit past my company's purchasing department in a reasonable amount of time.
Exactly, I think this is really going to backfire for the bean counters that took over Docker. It should either be free or $100k+ agreements for extremely large companies. They're way underestimating the inertia and pain with trying to nickle-and-dime small and medium business users.
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#26Podman or minikube are the solutions I've gone with. Great software!
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#27I'm using Multipass [https://multipass.run], docker cli, configured with a docker context.
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#28I use Rancher Desktop as an alternative to Docker Desktop. It’s alright.
I have just started using it, and I stopped short of telling people it was a great alternative because I don't have enough experience with it yet to say one way or another.
But so far it's pretty muchliving up to my expectations, with a few quirks: (1) I can use the buildkit plugin, at least it seems to work so far, but (2) things are not strictly compatible, for example the `kuby build` command has an issue and will need to be updated to support rancher desktop... it's refusing to log in right now, even though I logged into my registry already, with an error about not doing interactive logins without a TTY. I'm assuming there's an easy workaround, (but this part works fine with Docker Desktop already.)
By your "it's alright" I suspect you've seen other things I'll bump into that made you say "alright" rather than "great." Anything interesting you're able to share?
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#29Should this be faster than Docker Desktop?
YMMV but my big pain point is sharing a large project between my Mac and the VM running Docker Desktop. I don't think this will make the file sharing bit any faster.
Re: Docker for Mac Without Docker Desktop
#30I've been exploring 2 alternatives (podman and colima) to replace my normal docker workflow, which is just building and running containers locally, sometimes with docker-compose. I started with podman but had issues with 2 main pieces of my workflow: docker-compose (or podman-compose) and shared volumes (with `run -v`). Switched over to colima and those worked out of the box for me ("brew install docker; brew install…
For the life of me, I could not make podman working to replace Docker. I keep getting various errors.
I just made the switch to colima. Thanks for mentioning it!