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Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by moondev »

thrwawy283 wrote: post #3

It feels like we're late to create the desktop experience where most things run in containers. My wish is to run something like Proxmox as a "stable base", and within it have a VM for my firewall (pfsense), my primary Linux OS (Fedora/Arch), a VM for services (Docker & k8s), and a VM for Windows gaming. I like the separation of concerns. I've wanted to do all of this on a laptop but I can't get a VM to exclusively ta…

You can do exactly this with proxmox or esxi. Create a main "gaming vm" to autostart with GPU + USB passthrough. Then you can manage your other vms from the web browser on your gaming vm.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by thrwawy283 »

moondev wrote: post #21
thrwawy283 wrote: post #3

It feels like we're late to create the desktop experience where most things run in containers. My wish is to run something like Proxmox as a "stable base", and within it have a VM for my firewall (pfsense), my primary Linux OS (Fedora/Arch), a VM for services (Docker & k8s), and a VM for Windows gaming. I like the separation of concerns. I've wanted to do all of this on a laptop but I can't get a VM to exclusively ta…

You can do exactly this with proxmox or esxi. Create a main "gaming vm" to autostart with GPU + USB passthrough. Then you can manage your other vms from the web browser on your gaming vm.

I understand what you're saying, but I'm seeking a very particular setup. Currently you cannot get a VM/guest to exclusively control the display panel of a laptop. You can get it to take exclusive control of a GPU, even an integrated GPU, but not the display controller and laptop panel itself. Usually the laptop user is left running an external monitor for their "main display". I did see myself administering pfsense and the separate "services" VM from the web browser.

The best you can do is have the host/hypervisor own the laptop display, and then remote desktop to or "stream out" the guest framebuffer.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by nhoughto »

Just in time for the end of jan Docker Desktop grace period (https://www.docker.com/blog/the-grace-period-for-the-docker-...).

I played with this when first announced, and then now and all the things I wanted when i first tried it out are now fixed (mainly transparent networking..) and the option for dockerd container engine makes migrating pretty simple.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by tjr225 »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #13
smarx007 wrote: post #5

Can it be used to run Docker Compose workloads? As I understand, the tool is launched because at the end of January the Docker Desktop grace period elapses and it becomes paid for large business.

There is Podman Compose which will what you want. I particularly like Podman, because you can use it for Minikube, independently, rootless, etc.

FWIW podman does not work as a driver for minikube on Apple Silicon. Really hoping it gets sorted out because that’s probably what I would use.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by hhh »

I have been using Rancher Desktop since the day Docker announced they would charge corporations for Docker Desktop. I don't really need it much, but I genuinely could not have had a cleaner transition. I uninstalled Docker Desktop, and hit install on Rancher Desktop. Everything 'just worked' and I started using nerdctl. This was on Windows, and a few months ago now.

I tried to install it on my personal M1 Max Macbook, and it was annoying enough (the vm stuff, which was annoying with Docker Desktop) that I just used Multipass and installed docker. I would 100% recommend anyone dependent on Docker Desktop on Windows give it a shot.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by jbreiding »

cholmon wrote: post #14

It looks like Rancher Desktop uses Lima VM ( https://github.com/lima-vm/lima ) under the hood, I suppose in the same way that Docker Desktop uses Hypervisor.framework on macos? This is the first I've heard about the Lima project. I'll be interested to see how file system performance with this compares to Docker Desktop on mac.

While I haven’t run rancher desktop, i have been running colima.

https://github.com/abiosoft/colima

Which also is built on top of lima.

It’s been great, some network wonkiness, and works on m1 perfectly.

The rancher devs have been contributing back to the project helping improve both.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by hsn915 »

This is depressing actually.

Instead of working to simplify the desktop, people are pouring energy into solutions that further complexity everything.

I don't understand the comments on this thread that express excitement and enthusiasm.

To this day, the UX of the linux desktop is subpar. This is caused by the complexity involved in running a gnu/linux system.

We do not need additional layers of complexity.

We need to collapse the layers and simplify the architecture of everything.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by taeric »

hsn915 wrote: post #27

This is depressing actually. Instead of working to simplify the desktop, people are pouring energy into solutions that further complexity everything. I don't understand the comments on this thread that express excitement and enthusiasm. To this day, the UX of the linux desktop is subpar. This is caused by the complexity involved in running a gnu/linux system. We do not need additional layers of complexity. We need to…

Pretty sure this is a non sequitur. This isn't a desktop environment, but a desktop application to manage containers. Right?

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by jeffh »

westurner wrote: post #2

From https://rancherdesktop.io/ : > Kubernetes and Container Management on the Desktop : > An open-source desktop application for Mac, Windows and Linux. > Rancher Desktop runs Kubernetes and container management on your desktop. You can choose the version of Kubernetes you want to run. You can build, push, pull, and run container images using either containerd or Moby (dockerd). The container images you build can be…

A key point around Rancher Desktop's k8s (actually k3s) support that stands out is that it allows you to use any k3s version and swap between them. This is great for those that want to test their workloads on different k8s versions right on their desktop.

Re: Rancher Desktop 1.0

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Post by jeffh »

hsn915 wrote: post #27

This is depressing actually. Instead of working to simplify the desktop, people are pouring energy into solutions that further complexity everything. I don't understand the comments on this thread that express excitement and enthusiasm. To this day, the UX of the linux desktop is subpar. This is caused by the complexity involved in running a gnu/linux system. We do not need additional layers of complexity. We need to…

I feel you hit reply on the wrong thread ... this seems to have nothing to do with Rancher Desktop?!?
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