Apple Destroys Lightning

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Re: Apple Destroys Lightning

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Post by ksec » Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 7:17 AM UTC

sudosysgen wrote: post #17

osigurdson wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be great if we are at the point where as long as the plug fits, things will at worst cause no damage and at best work as expected. As a contrived example, is it fine to plug a Thinkpad USB-C charger into a MacBook power supply? Or perhaps a random 5V USB-C charger with a 20V one (yes I am familiar with diodes)? It doesn't make sense obviously, but the plug fits and someone, somewhere with particularly bad ca…

The USB-C standard does guarantee that there will never be any damage - any voltage over 5V normally has to be requested by the device. As long as the devices are standards compliant, nothing bad will happen. The issue is devices that don't follow the standard, which can indeed be damaged, but what can you do about that.

If everything works according to standard, and if everything works in a perfect environment. Then Yes, it isn't an issue.

The reality is that charging at high voltage while being a high speed connection with direct controller on your CPU is problematic if not designed correctly. Aka MacBook Pro 2016.

Re: Apple Destroys Lightning

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Post by sudosysgen » Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 9:02 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #21

sudosysgen wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The USB-C standard does guarantee that there will never be any damage - any voltage over 5V normally has to be requested by the device. As long as the devices are standards compliant, nothing bad will happen. The issue is devices that don't follow the standard, which can indeed be damaged, but what can you do about that.

If everything works according to standard, and if everything works in a perfect environment. Then Yes, it isn't an issue. The reality is that charging at high voltage while being a high speed connection with direct controller on your CPU is problematic if not designed correctly. Aka MacBook Pro 2016.

There is no standard environment issue. As long as your charger and device are compliant, it's fine. If they aren't, there is nothing that can be done no matter what you're using.

Charging nowadays requires a high voltage and manufacturers have decided they want to reduce the number of ports, so we have no choice but to have high voltages with a controller in the CPU. An alternative would be to have a charging controller that can be activated and take over, but that's again an issue no matter what standard you're using.

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