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How we bootstrapped our SaaS to $1M ARR

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Re: How we bootstrapped our SaaS to $1M ARR

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Congratulations! But maybe "bootstrapped" is not a 100% correct. > MAY 2020 - Joining Tinyseed > And this is precisely why we never decided to raise money. However, a few years ago, [...] An accelerator designed precisely to help people grow their business [...] The money and the support we got from the program helped us grow ScrapingBee into what it is now

Co-founder here, I was waiting for this comment to be honest. So in essence, if you consider that bootstrapping is building a business without external funding, you're correct. But to me, bootstrapping VS "VC road" is much more nuanced than this. Going the VC road forces you to have crazy growth and raise more round because the VC model only works if they fund unicorn 1 time out of 100(0). TinySeed works even if they…

I understand that TinySeed is different than the typical doing VC roadshows and having crazy growth, that wasn't my point. I also understand that the amount you received from TinySeed wasn't probably too crazy, it's in their name after all; tiny seed. But that name also contains what they do, they provide seed funding.

Instead of contrasting Bootstrap VS Crazy-VC-Mode, it's more suitable to compare two different things. One is if you're bootstrapped or not, and if you're not, are you doing Tiny-VC-Mode or Crazy-VC-Mode? In this case you chose not to be bootstrapped, and are doing the Tiny-VC-Mode.

It's great that going Tiny-VC-Mode allowed you to grow at your speed and still remain independent, much better than the Crazy-VC-Mode usually allows. But if we start calling that "bootstrapped", then where does the line go for what is bootstrapping a business or not. The meaning would have to change from "Without any outside money" to "With a little bit of outside money, but still independent" which says something else.

Edit: Another way to see it: You still bootstrapped the early stages of the company, up until the point where you accepted outside investments. So according to you post, you joined TinySeed in May 2020, which your graph under "Slowly reaching $10k MRR" (https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/e1ea487c1823d29fb55da4...) show to be right around $5K MRR. So what you bootstrapped was up until "$60000 ARR", but after that you were no longer bootstrapped as TinySeed provided capital to you.

Re: How we bootstrapped our SaaS to $1M ARR

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Kevin, Pierre: congrats! And thanks for all your help to the NewsCatcher team. We use ScrapingBee's SEO progress as a benchmark of growth. Also, to the HN crowd, we found out about TinySeed from ScrapingBee, and applied and got in for the next batch. We've grown from ~4k MRR to 16k MRR in 10 months. So, to anyone who consider apply to YC, I'd recommend to take a look at TinySeed: https://tinyseed.com/

Thanks Artem!

Re: How we bootstrapped our SaaS to $1M ARR

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bootstrap = on your own. That's it. You had some seed funding.

Founder of another TonySeed startup. On your own can mean many things. I also burnt through my personal savings for the first year. So. On your own is just “VC’ed yourself” Taking money from TinySeed is very different than taking money from VC.

> So. On your own is just “VC’ed yourself”

Precisely. If TinySeed has provided funds, it's no longer "VC'ed yourself", it's "VC'ed yourself + tiny seed from TinySeed".

> Taking money from TinySeed is very different than taking money from VC.

No one is arguing that TinySeed is just like any other VC. But instead that by accepting VC, you could no longer claim the business to be bootstrapped.

Re: How we bootstrapped our SaaS to $1M ARR

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bootstrap = on your own. That's it. You had some seed funding.

Founder of another TonySeed startup. On your own can mean many things. I also burnt through my personal savings for the first year. So. On your own is just “VC’ed yourself” Taking money from TinySeed is very different than taking money from VC.

"VC'd yourself" is the definition of bootstrapping.

You either take money from someone else or you bootstrap it yourself.

Re: How we bootstrapped our SaaS to $1M ARR

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Awesome story and congratulations!

You recommended Rob Walling’s book, Start Small, Stay Small, but what else can I read?

And where do “indie hackers” like you hang out on the internet, so that i can learn more about how to do this myself?

Any other resources worth sharing?

Re: How we bootstrapped our SaaS to $1M ARR

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When people ask me why I like being the founder of a company, I often reply with a small story: when we built our first saas for SMB, we billed .50€ per API call and we plugged those calls to a Slack bot. Man how great it felt in the firsts weeks when this bot would send a message around 20 times a day: the sound of finally having built something valuable that would generate value even if I'd be out of my computer, r…

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