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SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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This is good news, I suppose. But why should users trust SUSE to maintain a free RHEL clone for the long term when Red Hat came to the conclusion it was bad business. Once bitten, twice shy.

Because SuSE has already been doing this for longer than CentOS has been around. It's just SuSE isn't a big name in America, it's used more in Europe (and often typically mainland Europe too).

Their distros are usually pretty solid too.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

[Article author here] I used to, yes. In what way do you feel it is a hit piece? I certainly did not intend for it to be one.

Yeah, I think the GP meant to say "puff piece" instead of "hit piece".

Gee, thanks.

Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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post #2

This is good news, I suppose. But why should users trust SUSE to maintain a free RHEL clone for the long term when Red Hat came to the conclusion it was bad business. Once bitten, twice shy.

Because SuSE has already been doing this for longer than CentOS has been around. It's just SuSE isn't a big name in America, it's used more in Europe (and often typically mainland Europe too). Their distros are usually pretty solid too.

AFAIK is mostly used in Germany, where SuSe has a strong take due to the average german person strongly preferring german-native stuff.

It looks like a cultural to me, in many times when I have interacted with people from Germany in a business context it just seemed that they are perfectly capable of speaking english but they just don't want to.

Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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post #21
post #2

This is good news, I suppose. But why should users trust SUSE to maintain a free RHEL clone for the long term when Red Hat came to the conclusion it was bad business. Once bitten, twice shy.

Because SuSE has already been doing this for longer than CentOS has been around. It's just SuSE isn't a big name in America, it's used more in Europe (and often typically mainland Europe too). Their distros are usually pretty solid too.

We also use LEAP on most of our servers. It's rock solid. I prefer it to Ubuntu after they snap-ed everything. Newer packages, seamless upgrades. Not so many packages though. We're still using Ubuntu 18 on development workstations, but that could probably change the second SuSE decides to offer >2yr free tier support.

Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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openSUSE Leap openSUSE Tumbleweed openSUSE MicroOS openSUSE Kubic Ranger/SUSE K3os SUSE EnterpriseLinux SUSE Liberty Linux ...a bit too much no? BTW: The name is horrible...hell, even "Pop OS" is better

Except it's not "Pop OS". It's "Pop!_OS".

Has anyone at Sysytem76 ever explained the genesis of this awful name? I really like Pop!_OS, but the name is just terrible.

Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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But is this actually a new distro? Take a look at their product page: https://www.suse.com/products/suse-liberty-linux/ Besides the name, it reads like a support offering paired with patching/automation tooling. Also, doesn't this offering prove there isn't vendor lock-in? Sounds like marketing FUD.

Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because SuSE has already been doing this for longer than CentOS has been around. It's just SuSE isn't a big name in America, it's used more in Europe (and often typically mainland Europe too). Their distros are usually pretty solid too.

AFAIK is mostly used in Germany, where SuSe has a strong take due to the average german person strongly preferring german-native stuff. It looks like a cultural to me, in many times when I have interacted with people from Germany in a business context it just seemed that they are perfectly capable of speaking english but they just don't want to.

> it just seemed that they are perfectly capable of speaking english but they just don't want to

Due to the similarity of German and English, German speakers can superficially appear far more competent in English than they actually are. (This goes both ways.) Speakers of both languages come to the other with about half of the grammar (including hard bits that usually betray non-natives like irregular verbs by vowel umlaut) and a large collection of basic Germanic roots.

I'm always amused when watching a German film how entire sentences sometimes are decoded by my brain as English, when they're German.

But this completely breaks down once you go beyond "Ich habe all das Bier getrunken". German never got all the French-Latin vocabulary. Most technical and literary terms are completely different. They may feel quite ill-at-ease in English even though they sound reasonably fluent with the basics.

Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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But is this actually a new distro? Take a look at their product page: https://www.suse.com/products/suse-liberty-linux/ Besides the name, it reads like a support offering paired with patching/automation tooling. Also, doesn't this offering prove there isn't vendor lock-in? Sounds like marketing FUD.

>Also, doesn't this offering prove there isn't vendor lock-in?

It's non-trivial to build a RHEL clone in a way that doesn't infringe on RHEL trademarks and still has timely delivery of security patches, etc. Centos did that, and was broadly used. RedHat acquired Centos in 2014. Then more recently, they completely changed what CentOS was (clone of current/stable RHEL) into a development branch that was ahead of RHEL. That's a different thing, that would serve a different purpose...they effectively killed the product.

I think it is new, and is a lever against RHEL lock-in. Though yes, the linked story is the marketing view of that.

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