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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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For those not trying to host their own, you might want to look at Migadu[1]. I have quite a lot of domains still running on the legacy GSuite, and a few others on the paid workspace, and the remaining on Migadu (not relations but a happy customer). 1. https://www.migadu.com

Migadu is great overall. I've been using it for probably 3-4 years.

I will say, they broke imap/pop without an announcement. They just silently changed the pop endpoint. I had to reach out to support to get the new endpoint. That's totally unacceptable without advanced notice.

They also doubled the price and added worse storage limits in 2020 citing the pandemic and increased expenses. So it's something to be weary of.

However, the price quality of the product are good, so I'm happy I migrated away from Google.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Is this for real? I've not received that email from Google. If so, I guess it's time to setup my own mailserver. I've been meaning to do it for a long while now anyway, as I'm not comfortable with the thought that Google is data-harvesting all my and my family's emails. But with mailservers being notoriously difficult to setup and configure securely, I keep putting it off. Time to get reading a few tutorials, methink…

Email is increasingly difficult to do yourself with the proliferation of anti-spam and anti-malware protection, combined with consolidated usage of SaaS apps for email across the board. Most of the IP address space in AWS and Azure is blacklisted by spam filters (as is customer IP space from most ISPs if they don’t already filter SMTP traffic), so unless you want to roll the dice on config settings for everyone you s…

You can set up an email server to receive mail typically (assuming your ISP doesn't block it). For outbound mail, you can create a dedicated regular gmail address, and instruct it to accept sending emails out with an alternate email/domain in the From address and set up all outbound mail to route through that. (I haven't tried this yet, but it looks like all the pieces are there under the "send mail as" setting on gmail).

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Bummer the only value I get out of the service as an individual user over Gmail is a custom domain. Migration is going to suck only because of stupidly relying on login with Google which won't work after I putge everything google from my life with fire. I'm presuming this includes paid apps that Google will be stealing when I decline to pay them by the month to keep them. Lesson learned don't use anything Google.

I switched to Migadu a few years ago, as I realized that having a personal account with Google Workspace was a bad idea. All Google features kept getting delayed for Workspace users. Google removed the free tier (huge red flag on its future). Fortunately I just had to migrate email and calendar. You're in a bigger mess.

Yep. Get out. Stop relying on Google for anything important.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Bummer the only value I get out of the service as an individual user over Gmail is a custom domain. Migration is going to suck only because of stupidly relying on login with Google which won't work after I putge everything google from my life with fire. I'm presuming this includes paid apps that Google will be stealing when I decline to pay them by the month to keep them. Lesson learned don't use anything Google.

You probably also get 65GB of storage for free, but you may not be using it.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.

How are you calculating $70 per family member?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I've been meaning to migrate but am more than a little leery of the potential for gotchas and disruption. Any advice from those who have gone through this already? I understand you just lose all your Google Play purchases and need to re-purchase any apps or subscriptions you want to keep. I'm assuming this will basically require an Android phone factory reset and to be setup fresh with a "new" Google account for the…

Oof, this sucks. I'd forgotten about losing all Android purchases. That totally sucks. You still need to get out though, as it will only get worse. I personally migrated by downloading and uploading over imap.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.

Yup, I'd pay $10 per month for my family. But I'm not paying $50 or $60 per month.

The only difference over the free Google Workspaces is the domain name.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.

How are you calculating $70 per family member?

I guess it's $70 per user per year?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.

(full disclosure, I work for Google but have no special insights here other than reading the article)

My interpretation is that you'll still be able to use your account on Youtube, Play Store, etc. You'll just lose the workspace specific features like Drive, so use the tools that let you dump that data.

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