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Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain areas. Doesn't seem like a problem?

Maybe the theory is the rate will approach and then PASS the pre-pandemic levels. Creating some type of panic and surge.

Can't wait for a bunch of apartments to suddenly become "second chance" properties where they require first and last month's rent up front along with an additional unrefundable deposit of another month's rent.

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These headlines are some of the weirdest backwards stories I’ve seen lately. It’s like everyone is desperate to make this into a crisis yet reality isn’t delivering the eviction catastrophe the headline writers wanted.

Obviously we’re seeing more evictions now that they’re literally not banned. That’s not news. However, this is shocking:

> The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain areas.

If eviction rates are “approaching pre-pandemic levels” then isn’t the real shocking headline that eviction rates are lower than before the pandemic despite the eviction moratorium? What am I missing?

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These headlines are some of the weirdest backwards stories I’ve seen lately. It’s like everyone is desperate to make this into a crisis yet reality isn’t delivering the eviction catastrophe the headline writers wanted. Obviously we’re seeing more evictions now that they’re literally not banned. That’s not news. However, this is shocking: > The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain a…

So many stories are a lot less interesting in a long term context.

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I'm all for providing a social safety net in exactly the way the US doesn't. Housing (aka shelter) is a key part of that but the way the US does this is completely backwards. The government saying you can't evict someone is basically telling people they don't have to pay rent anymore regardless of need . Rent control is the same way: you can't raise the rent regardless of need . So these programs don't really help pe…

It is odd that there was an eviction moratorium but not a tax moratorium.

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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These headlines are some of the weirdest backwards stories I’ve seen lately. It’s like everyone is desperate to make this into a crisis yet reality isn’t delivering the eviction catastrophe the headline writers wanted. Obviously we’re seeing more evictions now that they’re literally not banned. That’s not news. However, this is shocking: > The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain a…

> If eviction rates are “approaching pre-pandemic levels” then isn’t the real shocking headline that eviction rates are lower than before the pandemic despite the eviction moratorium? What am I missing?

Home is the only shelter many people have from contracting COVID. Evicting people into situations such as homelessness and overcrowding, where infection is more rampant, is a great way to spike infection rates potentially more than both temporary shelter/housing systems as well as healthcare systems are prepared to handle.

That's the concern with restoring evictions to pre-pandemic norms. There's not enough capacity in a reduced-crowding scenario such as the one we're currently in.

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These headlines are some of the weirdest backwards stories I’ve seen lately. It’s like everyone is desperate to make this into a crisis yet reality isn’t delivering the eviction catastrophe the headline writers wanted. Obviously we’re seeing more evictions now that they’re literally not banned. That’s not news. However, this is shocking: > The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain a…

You are missing that the pandemic is very much ongoing, despite the government pretending the opposite. At my institution, the semester is starting. We are serving the lower income bracket (read nursing school). Enrollment is down 20 %. This is going to have long-term consequences.

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Tangential and honest question: how do eviction moratoriums help? I can see how a short ban on evictions can help prevent a spike in a homelessness crisis, but long term I really struggle with it. Is the assumption that all/most landlords have infinite money to support non-payers? Are governments subsidizing 100% of the missed rent?

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I'm all for providing a social safety net in exactly the way the US doesn't. Housing (aka shelter) is a key part of that but the way the US does this is completely backwards. The government saying you can't evict someone is basically telling people they don't have to pay rent anymore regardless of need . Rent control is the same way: you can't raise the rent regardless of need . So these programs don't really help pe…

There are certainly some people saying "f landlords" with little justification. But there are also a good number of people saying that because they have lived in run-down housing that's detrimental to their health. Slumlords are a thing. I live in a small town right now, and there are absentee landlords here; I lived in a big city and absentee landlords are everywhere. For all the people who have paid rent in a home where the water doesn't work, the heat doesn't work, the insulation is failed or absent, mold is unabated... "f landlords" is a pretty appropriate response.

There's no easy solution when we've built up such a strong culture of individualism, that's effectively focused on avoiding collective responsibility for individuals who are struggling.

Re: Eviction notice downloads soar after federal moratorium ends

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I'm all for providing a social safety net in exactly the way the US doesn't. Housing (aka shelter) is a key part of that but the way the US does this is completely backwards. The government saying you can't evict someone is basically telling people they don't have to pay rent anymore regardless of need . Rent control is the same way: you can't raise the rent regardless of need . So these programs don't really help pe…

“As an aside, we do need to do something about hedge funds running around and buying up all the property, only building ultra-luxury property and the ultra-wealthy just parking money in real estate”

As usual this probably won’t get addressed because most lawmakers are part of the groups that benefit from this state.

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