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When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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Having such a marriage in this day and age is truly a luxury, reserved only for the deepest of lovers.

I wonder why people downvoted you. Maybe they don't agree and it is fine, but why try to silence?

It's a shallow comment that doesn't add anything of value.

Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't downvote, but I always find "this day and age" kind of sentiments extremely eye-rolly, like things were better in some mythic past.

Unless you think that things are always getting better, it is necessarily implied that some things were better in the past.

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Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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Bitter divorcees probably. Having a marriage like that is a luxury though. Let's be honest: marriage is not the same as it was 40-80 years ago, and that's because society is not the same it was. Long term commitment to your spouse seems to be an idea left to the past now.

"Long term commitment" isn't a luxury though, it's dedicated effort on the part of both spouses.

OP's economic argument is pretty sound. 40-50 years ago you could buy a new house, get a solid blue collar job with a pension, and watch your house 5x in value over the next 50 years. Makes it very, very easy to settle down with someone and start a family.

In today's economy, even for the relatively well-off, home ownership is essentially a pipe-dream and it is much harder to put down roots of any kind.

The second the marriage becomes hard, it's a lot easier to break a lease than it is to break a mortgage.

Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't downvote, but I always find "this day and age" kind of sentiments extremely eye-rolly, like things were better in some mythic past.

Unless you think that things are always getting better, it is necessarily implied that some things were better in the past.

Compare these two sentences:

> Having such a marriage in this day and age is truly a luxury, reserved only for the deepest of lovers.

> Having such a marriage is truly a luxury, reserved only for the deepest of lovers.

One contains a positive claim that something is worse now than it was before, which I think invites dispute and is entirely unnecessary anyway. It's a fine sentiment without the judgement.

Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't downvote, but I always find "this day and age" kind of sentiments extremely eye-rolly, like things were better in some mythic past.

> I always find "this day and age" kind of sentiments extremely eye-rolly, like things were better in some mythic past. I've encountered this sentiment, several times, lately. In my experience, any mention of a time before now, especially, when they find out that I am "chronologically-challenged," is met by a "Don't tell me about the 'good old days,' Grandpa!". This day and age, seems to have established a culture of…

> In my experience, any mention of a time before now, especially, when they find out that I am "chronologically-challenged," is met by a "Don't tell me about the 'good old days,' Grandpa!".

> My generation has caused a lot of damage, and has exhibited almost awe-inspiring levels of selfishness.

With respect, I think some self-reflection may be in order.

Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I always find "this day and age" kind of sentiments extremely eye-rolly, like things were better in some mythic past. I've encountered this sentiment, several times, lately. In my experience, any mention of a time before now, especially, when they find out that I am "chronologically-challenged," is met by a "Don't tell me about the 'good old days,' Grandpa!". This day and age, seems to have established a culture of…

> In my experience, any mention of a time before now, especially, when they find out that I am "chronologically-challenged," is met by a "Don't tell me about the 'good old days,' Grandpa!". > My generation has caused a lot of damage, and has exhibited almost awe-inspiring levels of selfishness. With respect, I think some self-reflection may be in order.

Actually, that is not "with respect."

And you have no idea how much self-reflection is a fundamental aspect of my life. I challenge you to match it.

Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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post #26

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> In my experience, any mention of a time before now, especially, when they find out that I am "chronologically-challenged," is met by a "Don't tell me about the 'good old days,' Grandpa!". > My generation has caused a lot of damage, and has exhibited almost awe-inspiring levels of selfishness. With respect, I think some self-reflection may be in order.

Actually, that is not "with respect." And you have no idea how much self-reflection is a fundamental aspect of my life. I challenge you to match it.

I don't really want to turn the comments section of this lovely article into rancor, but yeah, I'm really tired of hearing about the "good old days" from those who gave us the current day; from those who refuse to cede power to us who will actually be here when shxt hits the fan so we can start the long, heavy work of fixing the problems that were created to give you those "good old days"; we who are trying to make-do in a world where those who enjoyed those "good old days" are hoarding every last resource; so those who loved those "good old days" can then come in here and tell us our love isn't even good enough? Come on, man. Your "good old days" came at the cost we're paying now. Give us a break and let us at least try to enjoy what you've left us rather than rub our noses in how good you had it.

Gah.

I apologize for this dumb thing aimed at you. I know it's not your fault. But I think this is what you're coming up against when people tell you not to tell them about the good old days.

Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, that is not "with respect." And you have no idea how much self-reflection is a fundamental aspect of my life. I challenge you to match it.

I don't really want to turn the comments section of this lovely article into rancor, but yeah, I'm really tired of hearing about the "good old days" from those who gave us the current day; from those who refuse to cede power to us who will actually be here when shxt hits the fan so we can start the long, heavy work of fixing the problems that were created to give you those "good old days"; we who are trying to make-d…

I agree. I really understand this. I even mentioned it in my comment. I have a rather ... out-of-band ... life story for this venue. I didn't dance to this age. I was dragged, kicking and screaming, and holding onto the door jams. Frankly, I'm amazed that I'm here, every day.

My past is not really something I want to go back to, thank you very much. I prefer looking forward.

I also don't want it to be rancor. If you look at my commenting history, here, you will find very, very little, and what you do find, will be fairly mild. I'm a reformed troll, and feel that I must atone for being an arsehole of the first water, for many years. I know that I come across as "stuffy," but believe me, when I tell you, that the alternative is not pleasant.

But it is also important to understand that every person is an individual. This is something that I have to struggle with, every single day. It's very easy for me to be intellectually lazy, and dismiss whole swaths of people, simply because they tick one box of many.

I have fast friends, that I would never have had, if I had insisted that they meet my litmus tests. I won't engage them on certain topics, but I know that we have a great deal of mutual respect.

I participate in a community, that is ... eclectic. Its members are quite varied, and we have learned to put aside our differences in pursuit of a common goal. I really wish that the world ran this way, but it's difficult work. Really humbling, but also extremely rewarding. A central tenet is to be of Service. I like to think that I've done OK, here.

The article was written by an old dude that has been dragged through hell, but has also managed to do well for himself and his wife.

Believe it or not, I hear stories like this almost daily. Very few ever make it into the mainstream, and I am a truly privileged person to hear them.

Not all that is old is bad. Not all that is new, is good. The world has been damaged for a long time, and no one of us can fix it all, so we do our part to police our area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIAhVV9-85c

Re: When my wife developed Alzheimer’s, the story of our marriage kept us connected

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post #5

> It’s hard to accept the possibility that Judy may have completely forgotten about me, but a lifetime of living with disability has shown me how delicate human bodies and minds can be, how little it can take to dramatically, traumatically alter—or end—lives. Two rogue bones in my neck. Plaque on my beloved’s brain. Great love stories begin with such heady promise and end with such sadness and grief—but, at least in…

I do not believe it is rare. I think that it is the same with bad news and tragedy, the news reports only those. Behind all the sad stories, the frustrated stories, and everything else that is loud, there is a quiet passion that supports the world. It quietly goes on, without disturbing the neighbors, or making headlines. It's not easy, it's not painful, but it perseveres. All around you. In the background.
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