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Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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> It serves no real purpose Oh common. You may not like it, but DRM was invented for a reason.

To frustrate those who legally purchased the game? It doesn't stop piracy, it makes the pirate version higher quality.

Need to boost that MAU number

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Diablo 2 resurrected was the most infuriating experience I have had. I bought it in the Switch store against my better judgment, partly because in their support forum they said that offline mode would of course always be offline. For the first few days people could hardly even start the game, I tried to return it right away, because it's basically a bricked game at this point, but Nintendo doesn't want to refund swit…

Consumers need to demand better refund systems from the big console makers. On Steam if you don't like a game, or if it doesn't work for you, you can get a full refund no questions asked as long as it's within 14 days and with less than 2 hours playtime. In certain circumstances they even give refunds after 2 hours playtime (e.g. you spend 2+ hours debugging the game and trying to get it to run) This should be standa…

> It benefits the user AND the developer

Notably it benefits good faith developers. I.e., the developers we actually want making games. The developers that lose under this model are the ones that make poor quality games.

Though I admit it does not solve every dark pattern.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Diablo 2 resurrected was the most infuriating experience I have had. I bought it in the Switch store against my better judgment, partly because in their support forum they said that offline mode would of course always be offline. For the first few days people could hardly even start the game, I tried to return it right away, because it's basically a bricked game at this point, but Nintendo doesn't want to refund swit…

Consumers need to demand better refund systems from the big console makers. On Steam if you don't like a game, or if it doesn't work for you, you can get a full refund no questions asked as long as it's within 14 days and with less than 2 hours playtime. In certain circumstances they even give refunds after 2 hours playtime (e.g. you spend 2+ hours debugging the game and trying to get it to run) This should be standa…

It's legally mandated in the EU.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/gua...

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consumers need to demand better refund systems from the big console makers. On Steam if you don't like a game, or if it doesn't work for you, you can get a full refund no questions asked as long as it's within 14 days and with less than 2 hours playtime. In certain circumstances they even give refunds after 2 hours playtime (e.g. you spend 2+ hours debugging the game and trying to get it to run) This should be standa…

> It benefits the user AND the developer Notably it benefits good faith developers. I.e., the developers we actually want making games. The developers that lose under this model are the ones that make poor quality games. Though I admit it does not solve every dark pattern.

Kinda, but it also incentivizes bad-faith gamers, which in turn disincentivises good-faith developers. There are a lot of games out there with a Perhaps such a system could work if it were based on a percentage of time-to-complete, but I have no idea how one would objectively determine that, especially before sale.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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D2R at launch was bad. Everyone, including Blizzard, admits that. But, after launch it's been pretty good. They are releasing the first balance/content patch in over 10 years and everyone is pretty hyped about it.

With regards to the whole "30 days offline" thing - this was well known way ahead of launch. This is how all Blizzard games have worked for many years now. When they cancelled TCP/IP local play support the community asked them about it and they put an questions and answers segment out that included information about how you would need to connect to servers every once in a while to unlock game files.

If that's not your thing then don't play or grab a crack. shrug

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Blizzard is long dead. Such a shame. I’ll never pay for another of their games until… actually I’m not sure when, or what they could do to bring me back. They’ve poisoned their brand so completely, and their latest releases have been either somewhat mediocre or mismanaged into the ground over time.

> Blizzard is long dead. i'm still in somewhat of a denial since i really like their IPs. and diablo 4 is still very much on my radar. if that one tanks then I hope something changes as their IPs are just too good...

Most of their IP is dead at this point; Warcraft is a dead horse they’ve been beating for the last decade, StarCraft is effectively abandoned, and Diablo 3 was a blatant cash grab from day 1 with a mediocre game behind it. Hearthstone and Overwatch are doing ok as esports but those aren’t the Blizzard IP I actually like.

To think that any future games will be better than what we’ve gotten over the last decade is just being in denial that they’re Activision now. They have continued to mine the nostalgia of the player base with mediocre remakes and retread content and, combined with the fact that it’s now public knowledge how toxic Blizzard culture was during the “golden era”, it has destroyed most of the cultural value that IP had.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Diablo 2 resurrected was the most infuriating experience I have had. I bought it in the Switch store against my better judgment, partly because in their support forum they said that offline mode would of course always be offline. For the first few days people could hardly even start the game, I tried to return it right away, because it's basically a bricked game at this point, but Nintendo doesn't want to refund swit…

Consumers need to demand better refund systems from the big console makers. On Steam if you don't like a game, or if it doesn't work for you, you can get a full refund no questions asked as long as it's within 14 days and with less than 2 hours playtime. In certain circumstances they even give refunds after 2 hours playtime (e.g. you spend 2+ hours debugging the game and trying to get it to run) This should be standa…

The only problem is that—ironically for a thread about the problems of DRM—this forces stores to implement some type of DRM scheme. GOG can't reasonably offer as generous a refund policy as Steam, because once you've downloaded a game, there's no way to give it back.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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> It serves no real purpose Oh common. You may not like it, but DRM was invented for a reason.

To frustrate those who legally purchased the game? It doesn't stop piracy, it makes the pirate version higher quality.

It really depends on how you define piracy. With movies and music it doesn't work at all because they don't evolve and change over time. Once that 4K BluRay content hits The Pirate Bay it's game over. But, with games, it's a very different story. Many games have intricate design with their servers that make ripping them apart and creating standalone pirated copies extremely difficult. Even some single player games, while pirated, don't get as much adoption from the pirate community because of the ongoing patch support they receive that is usually lacking in the pirated versions.
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