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A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

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Re: A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. The 'leader' of the Netherlands for all political purposes is the Prime Minister, not the king. You are mixing up leader with head of state. The latter can be a completely meaningless role fulfilled by a paid actor such as in our case, whereas the nominal leader may look like a paid actor, but tends to have actual power and some form of accountability.

I think it was a political remark on Boris Johnson.

Valid for Ukraine too

Re: A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

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One could make the argument that omitting the Prime Minister from the list of leaders is actually correct.

One usually has a prime minister as the head of cabinet and the executive branch via the rest of the ministers. What argument could one make to say a prime minister is not a leader, since the actual argument is missing from your comment?

He is making a joke about how Rupert Murdoch actually runs the UK.

Re: A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

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One could make the argument that omitting the Prime Minister from the list of leaders is actually correct.

One usually has a prime minister as the head of cabinet and the executive branch via the rest of the ministers. What argument could one make to say a prime minister is not a leader, since the actual argument is missing from your comment?

I'm fairly sure the post you're responding to is an observation on the current state of UK politics, rather than a generalisation.

Re: A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. The 'leader' of the Netherlands for all political purposes is the Prime Minister, not the king. You are mixing up leader with head of state. The latter can be a completely meaningless role fulfilled by a paid actor such as in our case, whereas the nominal leader may look like a paid actor, but tends to have actual power and some form of accountability.

> leader with head of state I am not a native speaker - what is the difference between these two words?

In e.g. a monarchy, the head of state is the king or queen. In many monarchies these days, this person tends to have very little actual power.

The leader of a country is the person leading it, e.g. a president, prime minister, or similar.

Sometimes the term head of government is also used, which I think is usually the same as the leader of the country.

Re: A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> leader with head of state I am not a native speaker - what is the difference between these two words?

In e.g. a monarchy, the head of state is the king or queen. In many monarchies these days, this person tends to have very little actual power. The leader of a country is the person leading it, e.g. a president, prime minister, or similar. Sometimes the term head of government is also used, which I think is usually the same as the leader of the country.

In parliamentary republics, the president is the head of state (and has little actual power), while the prime minister is the head of government.

Re: A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

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One could make the argument that omitting the Prime Minister from the list of leaders is actually correct.

One usually has a prime minister as the head of cabinet and the executive branch via the rest of the ministers. What argument could one make to say a prime minister is not a leader, since the actual argument is missing from your comment?

> What argument could one make to say a prime minister is not a leader, since the actual argument is missing from your comment?

Hiding in fridges for a start.

Re: A CIA website was out of date about who runs the UK

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I'm not sure about the inclusion of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland as separate entities, but listing Governors etc. of dependent territories at the bottom of the UK (Falkland Islands, Montserrat, Turks and Caicos Islands, Virgin Islands, Pitcairn) which, although they are quite small places, are more independent than Scotland and Wales.

I wonder if it would be worth separating US states rather than putting all the US state governors inside the USA. They all have many other state-level positions, it would be good to list those in an organised way.

I'm only looking at the https://peppercat.org/ site - I haven't checked the underlying data structure in WikiData, but maybe a fully hierarchical structure is needed. That would also enable adding data about e.g. members of parliament / congress, and to city and council levels by drilling down.

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