I know the problems you mentioned are not the same as the ones I mentioned. What I am trying to say is; if you have some kind of stubbornness - and also you like to research, you just start and stick.
Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?
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Re: Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?
#22I attempted something similar and I lasted about a day before it dawned upon me that an MS was really what I was after. A PhD is really a young person's game. Just as you don't attend conservatory later in life to become a performance musician, you don't "catch up" on a PhD to become a research scientist -- that boat has sailed. I know it's not what you want to hear, especially since you're already nontrivially inves…
Re: Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?
#23A million is a million.
Do you think you'd be able to recoup it in quicker time then the sunk cost in education?
I personally am not a fan of academia, but many on HN news are and believe the accreditation will lead you to go far. I personally believe it's up to your skills and network - what do you know and who do you know? You already are at a FAANG.
So it comes round to what's the point? Are you ready to forgo revenue for a PhD?
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#25> I’ve heard horror stories about abusive advisors, mental health struggles, low stipends, burnout, and lack of support systems.
Yes, it's a marathon. Some people really want to win that race. It is an accomplishment. A PhD might make a nice trophy, but tread cautiously down that road unless you very much want to slide into academia.
Re: Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?
#26A doctorate is a nice personal achievement, but the opportunity cost is more than money. A PhD is a ticket that opens opportunities for teaching and research. (Mostly teaching.) You can do research on your own, without the costs of a PhD. You can strike up intellectual relationships with other researchers today. You can invent things and file your own patents. You can create your own businesses, selling products or s…
The down sides are significant and should be considered very carefully.
However, universities can sometimes be attractive and motivating work environments, especially if you are tired of tech companies and startups and don't need or care about the money you'd get from working there. As noted, you can try an MS (ideally completing a master's thesis which is something like a mini-dissertation) and see if it's something you like.
And I don't know how it is in your company, but sometimes interesting research jobs in industry are easier to get if you have a graduate degree.
Re: Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?
#27As I see it, there are two ways to engage in research. You either have an area that truly interests you and you are excited to deep dive into it for many years, to write about it and to give talks about it. The other way is to work within a research group on the principal investigator's area of interest and carve out a small niche within that. The former path (the one I chose) is difficult because you might end up with very little outside support. The latter, as I have observed, is optimal for those who have ambitions to forge ahead with a career in research. From what I have seen, it is the latter that gets the bad rap.
From a financial perspective, a PhD is not a good choice. But there are exceptions to that rule. If you are concerned about $1m opportunity cost, then it is a No Go zone.
As an adventure, as a massive self-growth experience, for cerebral persons I can recommend it.
With a MS you expand you knowledge by learning from others. With a PhD you create new knowledge and stake your claim upon it. It might be very narrow and specific, but it is yours. Well at least until others build upon it. That is how science advances.
Re: Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
A masters program isn’t typically focused on research. I don’t actually care about taking classes; I just want to do research. A thesis-based masters is just training for a PhD, so I would rather do the PhD. I don’t know what’s next after the PhD. It could be another FAANG job, founding a startup, or really anything. A PhD definitely does not help get me there. It’s just a personal goal
Why do you need to be in a program to do research? Are you looking for access to some mentioning that you can’t get by other means.
1. You have access to paywalled papers. The majority of leading edge research is published in high subscription fee journals.
2. You gain a great deal of knowledge and build international network of contacts by attending conferences and collaborating with others. Sabbaticals are another form of leverage.
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#29Re: Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?
#30The main thing, w.r.t. tech roles is that a lot of the more advanced, and possibly higher paying, ML roles require a PhD in a related field. So if that's what you want to do afterwards it's an option.