Is it just me or does a subreddit with only 90k members seem too small to matter?
Especially amongst India. Their population is huge, you would need a much larger reach to influence culture.
Extremist content on Reddit, Discord worrying trend for young adults in India
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
So allow open lies and open hate?
Yeah. Otherwise, who decides? Nobody is qualified to define allowable speech and thinking. Exceptions to any attempt at sets of "allowable speech" rules are trivially produced. Concepts like hate and lies are vague and nebulous. The best you can do to prevent actual harm in the real world is allow unfettered speech and discussion. Speech is thinking. Non-consensual thought control is evil. Consensual speech and discu…
In India, there have been pages created listing Muslim girls and women for sale. Using photos and real names. And the men describe the various ways they want to use their "property" once they buy them. If you were a Muslim in India, facing fears of state-encouraged real life violence, what sort of conversation would you like to have with these people? Are you going to look at a page like that and think: "I'm so thankful for the culture being created here."
What you say works great in a vacuum. But unfettered hate speech leads to bad places. Just ask the German Jews. Ask a Tutsi how they felt about the hateful radio shows before the genocide started. Imagine what it was like to be a black person in the US facing lynching and pogroms over the misinformation being widely spread.
But, hey, I guess just "conversation" would have solved all of those issues. Because those screaming their hateful messages are just misunderstood people who can be easily reasoned with. And who can call it hate to begin with? After all, calling a group subhuman, and wishing for their daughters to be raped, is just a cultural development no one should interfere with.
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#23I think the far more worrying trend is trying to silence anyone with different political ideologies.
Like their handpicked example of a user discussing "'destroý' Islam". Note, they added the quotes around destroy. But the actual content is reasonably thoughtful discussion of appointed supreme court judges and only claims "to end radical islam".
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#24When I see “worrying” or “problematic” in an article headline I know I can safely ignore it
"Problematic" is the 2019-2020 catchphrase which roughly translates to 'Things that dont actually matter, but we want the pageviews'.
I've always thought of it as meaning "Something that makes me feel unconfortable but I can't articulate why".
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. Otherwise, who decides? Nobody is qualified to define allowable speech and thinking. Exceptions to any attempt at sets of "allowable speech" rules are trivially produced. Concepts like hate and lies are vague and nebulous. The best you can do to prevent actual harm in the real world is allow unfettered speech and discussion. Speech is thinking. Non-consensual thought control is evil. Consensual speech and discu…
Reddit/Discord are not “open opinion” platforms. They are businesses. If they don't like what you're saying then they should kick you off, especially when advocating for violence and spreading fascism. You are free to start your own business and proceed to pick up where the conversation left off on your own platform, at least until the government comes knocking and asking about why you are supporting violence and sed…
> Reddit/Discord are not “open opinion” platforms. They are businesses.
Then we should go back to protocols and open hardware and stop making corporations the new public forum.
Your opinions are safe today, but tomorrow they may not be.
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#26“Discord primarily acts as a hub for extreme right-wing socialising and community building.”
Primarily? No, not even close.
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#27I think the far more worrying trend is trying to silence anyone with different political ideologies. Like their handpicked example of a user discussing "'destroý' Islam". Note, they added the quotes around destroy. But the actual content is reasonably thoughtful discussion of appointed supreme court judges and only claims "to end radical islam".
It’s interesting because “destroy whiteness” was and is a popular talking point in certain circles or the left. Obviously they don’t literally mean destroy white people but as always the benefit of the doubt is extended to them but “destroy Islam” immediately is interpreted as inherently violent or evil.
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#28I'd like to understand why so many young people find extremist content so persuasive and engaging. I can't stand it, and I instantly close any website that allows for extreme content.
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#30Is it just me or does a subreddit with only 90k members seem too small to matter? Especially amongst India. Their population is huge, you would need a much larger reach to influence culture.
Agreed. For comparison, the /r/aznidentity subreddit (Americans with Asian ancestry) has half as many members but has much more extremist content.
Insofar as Indians are using Reddit, they aren't in /r/india.