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$10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

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Re: $10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

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These people's reading comprehension is atrocious. Tesla's FSD does not exist yet. A beta product is not the same as a product. Yes one can pre-pay for the product and get some features now, but actual FSD is simply not here yet. By "actual FSD" I mean something that is non-beta and actually does full self driving, in case that needs to be spelled out. Boy.

I agree with a lot of your points, but the source of the confusion is Tesla.

They can make things much more clear and take the marketing hit, but they choose not to do so.

Re: $10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cute, but having the "capability"... as in, will be capable of FSD in the future when the software is ready... ...does not mean that the functionality has come out of beta.

Where does it say on Tesla’s official FSD page that it is still in beta? Also why would I assume that the software is only ready in the future when it says “The complimentary FSD computer upgrade for owners with Full Self-Driving capability is now available.” What part of “available now” is meant to imply it’s ready in the future?

It’s ok… I guess it’s just not for you.

Re: $10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

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This is a stunt by Green Hills Software, a maker of embedded operating systems and programming tools. You might be interested to know that they initiated a public relations campaign decrying the use of Linux as insecure: https://lwn.net/Articles/83242/ Here's an article by the very same Dan O’Dowd: "Linux: unfit for national security?" https://web.archive.org/web/20040912190752/http://www.ghs.co... https://web.archiv…

If I'm not mistaken the Green Hills "Integrity" OS is used in HP's iLO which has some [1] interesting [2] flaws [3]. Maybe these are all HP's fault, maybe they are partly due to the way "Integrity" works but it would be highly surprising if "Integrity" is indeed blameless.

So, "Integrity, unfit for national security" and "Integrity is insecure" are probably just as "true" as the statements made by the above gentleman.

[1] https://airbus-seclab.github.io/ilo/RECONBRX2018-Slides-Subv...

[2] https://vulmon.com/searchpage?q=ilo--

[3] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-10/p...

Re: $10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

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post #6

These people's reading comprehension is atrocious. Tesla's FSD does not exist yet. A beta product is not the same as a product. Yes one can pre-pay for the product and get some features now, but actual FSD is simply not here yet. By "actual FSD" I mean something that is non-beta and actually does full self driving, in case that needs to be spelled out. Boy.

I agree with a lot of your points, but the source of the confusion is Tesla. They can make things much more clear and take the marketing hit, but they choose not to do so.

ok… this comes to mind.

https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/14823531319839785...

Re: $10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with a lot of your points, but the source of the confusion is Tesla. They can make things much more clear and take the marketing hit, but they choose not to do so.

ok… this comes to mind. https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/14823531319839785...

I don't follow is this video about Tesla fans reactions to criticism?

The marketing for FSD has been quite clear that your car will drive itself completely soon. Just check out the years-old video on tesla.com/autopilot claiming there is someone in the drivers seat only for legal reasons

Re: $10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

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post #26
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok… this comes to mind. https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/14823531319839785...

I don't follow is this video about Tesla fans reactions to criticism? The marketing for FSD has been quite clear that your car will drive itself completely soon. Just check out the years-old video on tesla.com/autopilot claiming there is someone in the drivers seat only for legal reasons

Tesla haters complaining about this are like the guy at the end of video. If you don’t like the website, just don’t visit it.
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