So what’s the solution? Take a clean device and then connect it to online services from China? Or are they advising against that ad well? Presumably this is about physical device searches and not the safety of internet access in general.
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#22For obvious reasons, the Chinese government is extraordinarily sensitive to criticism. I wonder if the Dutch policy has less to do with device security (the reason given by officials), and more to do with avoiding an international row stemming from some athlete's post on social media during the games.
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#23Sounds like good advice for everyone traveling to countries that scan/copy your devices on entry. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/hacker-border-search/
Is there an up-to-date source on which countries do what kinds of scanning/copying?
Is it the case that device-level encryption successfully prevents access to the contents, or is that a layer I should refuse to trust?
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#24Sounds advice, one which I am sure the Dutch government would routinely give to their citizens who visit to any country which gives itself the right to access personal information on the device.
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#25Good advice for anyone.
It's good advice for diplomats and such. Most people are of no interest to China; why is this warning being given to athletes? Who wants to compromise them? How?
Blackmail. "Dont win against our team or we will leak your data" being the threat.
China definitely wants to have winning teams when they are hosting.
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#26Only the Dutch can spy on the Dutch...they can't afford others to do the same... "Dutch civil servants used social media to spy on citizens, says study" https://www.euronews.com/2021/05/19/dutch-civil-servants-use... "Netherlands: End dangerous mass surveillance policing experiments" https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/09/netherlands-e... "The Netherlands, a surveillance state?" https://www.ictrecht.nl/en/blo…
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#27Sounds like good advice for everyone traveling to countries that scan/copy your devices on entry. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/hacker-border-search/
U.S. CBP reported that they conducted 40k electronic searches in 2019, or about 1-in-10000 travelers. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/speeches-and-statements/cbp-sta...
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#28Sounds like good advice for everyone traveling to countries that scan/copy your devices on entry. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/hacker-border-search/
Non-paywall link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210421205347/https://www.wired...
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#29Sounds like good advice for everyone traveling to countries that scan/copy your devices on entry. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/hacker-border-search/
Why did they do this to him??
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#30A lot of large companies in the US (including my own) have similar policies for China travel. We are not allowed to take any work devices into China. The company loans us "clean" phones and laptops (without any company data or access to company networks) that we can use while we are there.