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Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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More details: https://whats.new/

That looks awful as a concept. I hope it doesn’t get any traction.

I wonder if it feels more natural for different cultures or language structures, to me doing something like sheets.new isn't the order I output in - something like "/new sheets" (and without the .) feels normal, natural, but perhaps because of my own personal experience and exposures.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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And .dev, which IIRC they were not going to make public but then did. And requires SSL

I get the issue of making .dev public, what's the issue with requiring ssl certs beside it being unnecessary in some cases?

A lot of people had local domains (only entered in their hosts file or the router) on the dev TLD. Adding that domain to the hsts preload list not only broke their current setup, but also made it hard to bring it back to live - if you don't own the domain, the only option is to set up your own CA, with all included drawbacks.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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ICANN is a fat American corporate body.

At some point ISLANNDs (Internet Small Local Authority for Name and Number Designations) could override it. That way, you could link to http://google.lol/posts/39-put-google-in-the-can and your cohort will enjoy this and the rest of those posts making fun of google, while the rest of the world is disappointed over dead links.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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How can a commercial company own a top level domain like ".app"? I get that they own .youtube or .google but isn't that way too generic? Like a company owning the copyright for the word "Company"?

Because gTLDs were sold to the highest bidder; there’s no requirement for them to be sold for the good of humanity. For-profit companies like Verisign own .com and donuts owns a few hundred https://donuts.domains/what-we-do/top-level-domain-portfolio...

Verizon does not own .com in the same way as people owning other gTLDs. They operate it under contract with ICANN

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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post #4

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More details: https://whats.new/

That looks awful as a concept. I hope it doesn’t get any traction.

I agree, writing more about my reasoning last year at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27162905. It gets you an only slightly shorter URL, while significantly diluting trust.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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In a sense, dangerous. Google has a history of (and currently practices) censoring viewpoints it disagrees with. Will its censorship reach extend from omitting / deprioritizing search results to entirely canceling those using its TLDs that it deems undesirable?

Source? What i see, is that it's blocking illegal things.

Well, there is the Wikipedia article [1] but even there most of what it mentions could be considered hearsay, so I'll go with a couple others:

- 4chan's /pol/ board straight up doesn't show up. It's easy to directly go to a board by writing "4chan" and the correspondent letters, /pol/ is censored from the results though, this is most probably political in nature since even /b/ shows up.

- The "substitute" for the r/The_Donald subreddit at communities.win is similarly unreachable.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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What does it take to register a new TLD?

In the last round which spawned all the "new gTLDs", pretty much everybody could apply who could afford the $185k application fee and $25k/year maintenance fee and could present some plan on how they'd use and run the TLD.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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The list of all their owned TLDs are at [0]. There is an icannwiki page with all the ones they’ve applied for, but not just the ones they currently own. 0: https://ntldstats.com/registry/Charleston-Road-Registry-Inc

IMHO Europe should do a hard fork of DNS before it is too late. States already mess with the DNS of major telcos for censorship anyways. Regaining control over the new purely capitalist take of the Internet would finally be something good.

(Living in Europe)

I think most countries have already have their own TLD under their control anyway (or under an organisation that they control), and I find a lot of companies for the services I use already using a domain under the country level TLD. In addition, since Europe was mentioned, the .eu TLD is already run by a non-profit appointed by the EU commission.

I'm not really sure what doing a hard fork of DNS would achieve? I wouldn't want the rest of the internet being cut off from me. It would also be incredibly confusing which DNS system is being referred to when giving/receiving a URL.

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