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Re: The Black Sky Event

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Maybe there is a solar flare incident that causes it, but as it relates to a cyber or EMP attack destabilizing a country into cannibalistic chaos - it isn't really in anyones interest, as most strategic policymakers understand that you get something much worse than the devil you know when you do. Even destabilizing so-called "minor" powers like Iraq, Libya, and Syria created international terror cells and radicalized…

I always wondered if a foreign country could create near microscopic, or at least bug size drones ...land them around the country slowly on top of transformers until there's one on every transformer and power station/sub-station in strategic locations...then poof .. send a tiny zap, or just ignite via .01 ounces of napalm, or something... something that small would be hard to notice, as a bonus they could also do the same at every fueling station.

Cut not only electricity but the ability for people to run, or flee or w/e.

Re: The Black Sky Event

#22

Why is every one of these events "long overdue"? We are long overdue for huge earthquake in California, big volcano, huge asteroid, etc. Where is this notebook that lists these catastrophic events that are supposed to occur on some sort of regular timetable?

Asteroids, and super volcanoes are on too big a timescale to really predict w/ a lot of accuracy when it's "due" imho....

Carrington-level events though are roughly every 100-150 years, of that we're pretty certain and it's been like 160 years since the last one.

A Cascadia Tsunami apparently hits every 240 years (on average according to VERY good records from Japan), the last one would've decimated basically half the state of Washington.... probably most of Seattle, etc.. not sure about if it goes up to Vancouver, etc...

As far as things that are due to hit us, besides global warming related catastrophes, I think Carrington and Cascadia Tsunami's probably have the most possibility of occurring soonest. Carrington is the scariest though... as it basically affects everyone globally and sets us back to the 1800s..

Re: The Black Sky Event

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post #3

In 2003 there was a major blackout that started in Ohio and took out the power grid for most of Ohio east to New York and up into Ontario. Around 55 million people lost power. This is the same as a hypothetical EMP (blackouts without structural damage) because there is no real EMP, just a full on nuclear bomb. Within 2 days the entire grid was back up like nothing happened. No civilization collapsed. This is fear mon…

> This is the same as a hypothetical EMP (blackouts without structural damage)

This is NOT the same as a hypothetical EMP.

An EMP could potentially fry everything from small electronic devices (like those which control the flows in oil and gas pipelines and in chemical plants, and the circuit breakers meant to protect the grid from power surges) to the about 2500 large power transformers at the core of the US grid, which would take years to replace even under ideal conditions.

https://worldif.economist.com/article/13526/electromagnetic-...

Re: The Black Sky Event

#24

Maybe there is a solar flare incident that causes it, but as it relates to a cyber or EMP attack destabilizing a country into cannibalistic chaos - it isn't really in anyones interest, as most strategic policymakers understand that you get something much worse than the devil you know when you do. Even destabilizing so-called "minor" powers like Iraq, Libya, and Syria created international terror cells and radicalized…

I always wondered if a foreign country could create near microscopic, or at least bug size drones ...land them around the country slowly on top of transformers until there's one on every transformer and power station/sub-station in strategic locations...then poof .. send a tiny zap, or just ignite via .01 ounces of napalm, or something... something that small would be hard to notice, as a bonus they could also do the…

Well, if you're talking about releasing something that wrecks economies and destroys societies and cultures, yet leaving them intact for occupation, value extraction, and management as vassals, I'm not sure you'd need something that large and energy intensive. But that's technology we or our adversaries just don't have, so it probably isn't a threat.

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Re: The Black Sky Event

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wondered if a foreign country could create near microscopic, or at least bug size drones ...land them around the country slowly on top of transformers until there's one on every transformer and power station/sub-station in strategic locations...then poof .. send a tiny zap, or just ignite via .01 ounces of napalm, or something... something that small would be hard to notice, as a bonus they could also do the…

Well, if you're talking about releasing something that wrecks economies and destroys societies and cultures, yet leaving them intact for occupation, value extraction, and management as vassals, I'm not sure you'd need something that large and energy intensive. But that's technology we or our adversaries just don't have, so it probably isn't a threat. [...]

no, but you'd want it to be something that doesn't bring 'nukes' to the table, because that's total destruction of everything. Plus the people will love you if you just feed them..those who don't starve first.... It'd be an easy way to lay waste to an entire country's gdp, and I don't think it'd even be costly. Tiny drones (once developed) could be deployed fairly cheaply, I'd imagine. They'd land like a little butterfly, wings would be a solar panel awaiting command to do w/e they're planned to do, or just create a wire-mesh network of listening devices to spy near/far...

I've wanted to write a sci-fi novels along these lines...except America is in civil war, and hacktivist freedom fighters use drones to essentially fight back against the rogue fascist govt that's taken over.

Re: The Black Sky Event

#26
The novel "Black Out" by Marc Elsberg covers this topic as well.

Writing solid, characters slightly on the meh side, scientific research pretty ok (from an amateurs perspective, that is).

Re: The Black Sky Event

#27

Why is every one of these events "long overdue"? We are long overdue for huge earthquake in California, big volcano, huge asteroid, etc. Where is this notebook that lists these catastrophic events that are supposed to occur on some sort of regular timetable?

Asteroids, and super volcanoes are on too big a timescale to really predict w/ a lot of accuracy when it's "due" imho.... Carrington-level events though are roughly every 100-150 years, of that we're pretty certain and it's been like 160 years since the last one. A Cascadia Tsunami apparently hits every 240 years (on average according to VERY good records from Japan), the last one would've decimated basically half th…

There is going to be a geomagnetic flip of the poles within the next 15 years.

Re: The Black Sky Event

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Asteroids, and super volcanoes are on too big a timescale to really predict w/ a lot of accuracy when it's "due" imho.... Carrington-level events though are roughly every 100-150 years, of that we're pretty certain and it's been like 160 years since the last one. A Cascadia Tsunami apparently hits every 240 years (on average according to VERY good records from Japan), the last one would've decimated basically half th…

There is going to be a geomagnetic flip of the poles within the next 15 years.

I wonder if the waning geomagnetic poles... change how well the magnetosphere protects us from solar flares, and maybe it opens the way for stronger storms to get through...

Re: The Black Sky Event

#29
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So the page now appears to be an advertisement for... childrens' furniture?

Re: The Black Sky Event

#30
This looks like it's frankly bullshit, but it does raise some interesting questions; not about EMPs, but people.

There's a question I occasionally ask people: what would you do if you woke up and the power was off and it wasn't coming back on any time soon? That's not an unreasonable scenario - it can happen in the US, as we've seen. I'm not talking permanently, but say it's indefinite: you don't know when the power will come back on, but not today or tomorrow or this week. No cell service, and - depending on where you live - maybe no water or heating either.

So what do you do? I mean specifically: what would you, not a theoretical person but you, do if that happened?

Most people don't have any idea, and a shocking number of them reply the same way: "I guess I'd probably just die." I've heard that from people of every race, age and gender. And they're not really kidding.

I have a lot of issues with the culture of "preppers", because there seems to be a lot of really nasty and unpleasant politics always lurking around there - like, I'll go find some sort of teehnical discussion of how to keep dry goods for long periods and halfway through the writer will start muttering about race wars or some awful fucking thing - but I do think there's value in at least having some skills and knowledge in that direction. I mean, I'm not Grizzly Adams, but in my thirties I realized that most of my skills involved computers, and that I'd be functionally useless in such a scenario.

So I started teaching myself basic carpentry and handyman stuff, learning how to make things with my hands and how to repair stuff, and how to build a basic shelter, do basic triage - Army survival manual stuff - and then how to wire up solar panels and charge controllers and all that good stuff. I figured out how to keep food - funnily enough, the Mormon church has some of the best community info about that for religious reasons - and safely store water, etc.

Nowadays, I'm the guy people say they'd go find if disaster struck, not because I have some compound with years of canned food and water tanks, but because I've actually thought about that question - what would I do if the power went out? - and tried to come up with good practices and strategies.

I'm working on a book about it, in fact - not a prepper manual but more a guide on how to think and act rationally in such situations, and the sort of information and tools you'd probably need. How to think about things we don't usually think about and come up with concrete plans, not just vague "Oh, I'd get out of town and find a place in the woods to hole up".

(How would you get out of town? If you don't have a car of your own with a full tank of gas, you're probably not going anywhere in a crisis, as public and mass transport will be instantly full. What "woods" would you go to? Some campground you vaguely remember seeing on the side of the highway once? You and a million other people. Planning on buying some energy bars and Dasani water bottles on the drive? Good luck, homie.) :-D

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