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Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by exhilaration »

dpq wrote: post #19
zwkrt wrote: post #16

Funny I should see this here, having just reread the book two days ago. Apart from the Sci Fi elements, of which Vinge is rightfully lauded, I love how much depth there is in the book w/ regard to individuals’ scheming and how layered the conversation is. At one point two factions of humans are listening to a live-translation of an alien radio show debate between rivaling aliens. The scene simultaneously moves forwar…

The next best thing is the Three Body Problem. But in many aspects I find Vinge's works unrivaled.

Can you suggest what to Vinge novel(s) to pick up after Fire in the Deep and Deepness in the Sky?

Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by evrydayhustling »

exhilaration wrote: post #21
dpq wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next best thing is the Three Body Problem. But in many aspects I find Vinge's works unrivaled.

Can you suggest what to Vinge novel(s) to pick up after Fire in the Deep and Deepness in the Sky?

Rainbows End is a great standalone novel. And Marooned in Realtime is like old school Asimov with great new ideas... you can skip its prequel Peace War.

Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by egypturnash »

Sharlin wrote: post #18
walrus01 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It probably would be possible to turn A Deepness In the Sky into a TV series, but it would need about the same high budget and first season run time as the Foundation series (10 hours?) to really go into sufficient depth on the 3 different cultures involved, and the order of events in that one book alone.

It would be an interesting challenge to depict the Spiders in a manner faithful to the book, given the plot twist at the end that rirelguvat gur uhznaf (naq gur ernqre) unq yrnearq nobhg gurz unq orra guebhtu na haeryvnoyr aneengbe – gur uhzna genafyngbef jub unq "ybpnyvmrq" (uru!) rirelguvat jevggra sebz gur Fcvqref' crefcrpgvir.

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Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by yobert »

Sharlin wrote: post #18
walrus01 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It probably would be possible to turn A Deepness In the Sky into a TV series, but it would need about the same high budget and first season run time as the Foundation series (10 hours?) to really go into sufficient depth on the 3 different cultures involved, and the order of events in that one book alone.

It would be an interesting challenge to depict the Spiders in a manner faithful to the book, given the plot twist at the end that rirelguvat gur uhznaf (naq gur ernqre) unq yrnearq nobhg gurz unq orra guebhtu na haeryvnoyr aneengbe – gur uhzna genafyngbef jub unq "ybpnyvmrq" (uru!) rirelguvat jevggra sebz gur Fcvqref' crefcrpgvir.

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Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by kamarg »

exhilaration wrote: post #21
dpq wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next best thing is the Three Body Problem. But in many aspects I find Vinge's works unrivaled.

Can you suggest what to Vinge novel(s) to pick up after Fire in the Deep and Deepness in the Sky?

Iain M Banks' series of Culture novels are extremely good and mostly don't revolve around action. Not quite the same but if you enjoyed Vinge you'll likely enjoy Banks as well.

Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by causality0 »

zwkrt wrote: post #16

Funny I should see this here, having just reread the book two days ago. Apart from the Sci Fi elements, of which Vinge is rightfully lauded, I love how much depth there is in the book w/ regard to individuals’ scheming and how layered the conversation is. At one point two factions of humans are listening to a live-translation of an alien radio show debate between rivaling aliens. The scene simultaneously moves forwar…

Peter F. Hamilton's work fits that description, though his page to page writing isn't as good as his ability to spin a plot.

Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by marktangotango »

evrydayhustling wrote: post #22
exhilaration wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you suggest what to Vinge novel(s) to pick up after Fire in the Deep and Deepness in the Sky?

Rainbows End is a great standalone novel. And Marooned in Realtime is like old school Asimov with great new ideas... you can skip its prequel Peace War.

I found Peace War very interesting on two axis. First, the exploration of human intelligence augmentation and second the commoditazation of nuclear weapons impact on politics and "state" ie when the state no longer has a monopoly on violence. I personally did not enjoy Rainbows End much, whatever that's worth.

Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by EdwardCoffin »

exhilaration wrote: post #21
dpq wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next best thing is the Three Body Problem. But in many aspects I find Vinge's works unrivaled.

Can you suggest what to Vinge novel(s) to pick up after Fire in the Deep and Deepness in the Sky?

I’ll second Rainbows End, and add in its earlier incarnation, the novella Fast Times at Fairmont High.

Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by drmpeg »

exhilaration wrote: post #21
dpq wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next best thing is the Three Body Problem. But in many aspects I find Vinge's works unrivaled.

Can you suggest what to Vinge novel(s) to pick up after Fire in the Deep and Deepness in the Sky?

I'll also recommend Rainbows End. I believe it contains a pretty good prediction of what millimeter wave 5G could become.

Re: Sensor Network Technology in Vinge’s a Deepness in the Sky

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Post by AlexCoventry »

exhilaration wrote: post #21
dpq wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next best thing is the Three Body Problem. But in many aspects I find Vinge's works unrivaled.

Can you suggest what to Vinge novel(s) to pick up after Fire in the Deep and Deepness in the Sky?

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