Where's your Tinder bio in this article? I can't imagine creating a new account and publishing something obscene on any social platform today without being flagged or worse.
Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#22This sounds super weird, unless this person had photos with forbidden content on it.
But anyway, creating a new profile is not so hard (given the number of catfish still on the platform)
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#23Just call credit card center for a refund and get a burner number…not a big deal. Regarding banks: get some Bitcoin just in case, as it can be much worse when banks ban you.
If you have to worry about banks banning you, you maybe shouldn't be in a position where you need to take financial advice from HN comments and you're likely better off with cash than an unstable asset that you can't easily eliminate without involving a bank.
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#24This is basically the paradigm of any monopolistic or near monopolistic system. You can screw over a small minority without provoking a real response so long as you are appeasing or distracting the majority. Big tech, traditional companies, and even government.
Moreover Tinder has an incentive to keep the paid users paid my making sure it is difficult for them to find a match. The most lucrative customers for matchmaking sites are the most desperate. Even with a lot of competition due to network effects most of the people would always be driven to the most popular sites.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#25A typical complaint about getting banned with a thin veneer of "big tech bad" to make it seem worthwhile to the reader.
A typical complaint would be if he had done something wrong, but he send 0 messages, got no likes - so what could he have done wrong? I had similar experiences with Tinder - I think their support team just bans people when they don't want to deal with them - without checking the account at all.
He says he did nothing wrong anyway. They all do. Maybe he is telling the truth but it's hard to know.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#26A typical complaint about getting banned with a thin veneer of "big tech bad" to make it seem worthwhile to the reader.
A typical complaint would be if he had done something wrong, but he send 0 messages, got no likes - so what could he have done wrong? I had similar experiences with Tinder - I think their support team just bans people when they don't want to deal with them - without checking the account at all.
Off the top of my head, there are at least two plausible explanations:
* Some user reported his account as "fake" or otherwise "inappropriate"
* The algorithm thought he faked his position
Neither one requires any intentional wrongdoing. It is what it is.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#27A typical complaint about getting banned with a thin veneer of "big tech bad" to make it seem worthwhile to the reader.
Yeah all the insight in this article comes down to the sentence "The big tech does not mind having a few false positives." the next paragraph about people trying to please the algorithm is such drivel since companies rarely mention what their algorithms look for and people rarely go out of their way to please an algorithm (unless they have some level of insight into the algorithm and it affects their income, generall…
Anecdotally, I find myself thinking about what might make my accounts look like I'm up to something, and avoid it. Also anecdotally, I've seen others on HN talk about doing the same. People may not know what the algorithm is, but they can make some reasonable guesses at what it might take into account.
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#28I know "don't use social networks made by evil megacorps that make money by trampling all over your privacy and making you addicted" is the kind of advice everyone sagely nods at but no one heeds. But it especially applies to dating apps. Like the proverbial sausages, once you know what goes on under the hood you won't ever feel like touching one of them with a ten foot pole.
> once you know what goes on under the hood you won't ever feel like touching one of them with a ten foot pole.
I love gaming the algorithm to meet hotter* people than I would meet using the apps the most intuitive way.
*It's not subjective, there are profiles that attract way more attention and would either: never be shown to you, or you never shown to them.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#29A typical complaint about getting banned with a thin veneer of "big tech bad" to make it seem worthwhile to the reader.
A typical complaint would be if he had done something wrong, but he send 0 messages, got no likes - so what could he have done wrong? I had similar experiences with Tinder - I think their support team just bans people when they don't want to deal with them - without checking the account at all.
He didn't post screenshots of his profile so we have no idea what's on there, it's completely possible (likely, even) that his profile text did violate the TOS. Instant perma-ban might be a bit harsh but we have no reason to believe one side over the other and no evidence pointing either way.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#30From Tinder's ToS:
> Tinder may terminate your account at any time without notice if it believes that you have violated this Agreement. Upon such termination, you will not be entitled to any refund for purchases.
> For residents of the Republic of Korea, except in the case [...], we will without delay notify you of the reason for taking the relevant step.
They openly say in advance that they'll ban users who they think violated their terms, regardless of whether they actually did, keep their money, and never tell them why, except in South Korea where they already know that crap doesn't fly. It's only a matter of time till that gets thrown out by more courts in more countries. Until then, it seems foolish to give them any money.