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Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

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I'm 16 years in and have followed a similar path. I graduated college in 2004, started my business in 2005 and never took a job.

Consulting has gotten me here and I've had up to 4 direct hires with me, but my dream has always been to run a product business. I must have attempted 3 dozen different ideas by this point.

But on Friday last week, we reached our 100th subscriber. Combined with other free products, we now have over 130k daily active users which sounds more impressive than it is. The MRR is still tiny and we still rely heavily on consulting projects that have been more and more difficult to line up.

It's been difficult, sometimes extraordinarily so, but we have such happy customers with huge amounts of positive feedback. It feels like this could really go somewhere. The fire still burns brightly within me though I don't know how. I'm determined not to let opportunities pass me by again.

I have never shared this anywhere.

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

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I have a similar long history of failures, though my failures did generate income - just nowhere near enough to give up the day job. €20k a year at their highest point, €5k a year at other times. I notice similarities in what you're describing, particularly when it comes to your target market and products. B2C not B2B. And generic, anyone products, rather than targeted niche products. A lesson that took me a long, lo…

Is it not a lot easier to market and sell to consumers instead of businesses? The CaC is lower correct?

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

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I have a similar long history of failures, though my failures did generate income - just nowhere near enough to give up the day job. €20k a year at their highest point, €5k a year at other times. I notice similarities in what you're describing, particularly when it comes to your target market and products. B2C not B2B. And generic, anyone products, rather than targeted niche products. A lesson that took me a long, lo…

The primary exception to consumer targeting (other than entertainment as you mentioned) is in the ecommerce space where consumers do spend very large amounts of money (Netflix falls under that broadly, though I'm speaking more towards traditional retail goods, shops, clothes, just about anything and everything that can be sold online to consumers).

Aren’t physical products a whole different ball game? I imagine the B2C app market may be an exception as well

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

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Honestly this seems like hell. I'd rather work remotely for a US company and move my ass somwhere like Brazil or Nigeria or Philippines or Thailand. You'd maybe feel the boredom and the lack of power in the decision making and the shame of having to report and reply "yessir" . But once you clock out you can then be the boss of the hood and recoup all frustration accumulated during worktime, throw the weight of the mi…

Wouldn’t it be extremely difficult to throw away all your friendships and relationships and move like that? Iirc studies show spending quality time with friends is a key component to happiness

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

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Glad you kept at it and finally created something with traction.

Here's what I learned via trial and error.

A long time ago, when investors and accelerators and MBA programs began to dominate the startup scene, founders got distracted.

I saw (and sometimes created) half-baked apps and websites, useless market research, chasing trends, chasing vanity metrics, investor pitching contests, startup theatre, and "build it and they will come" BS.

Build something people want and will pay for.

Not just say they want.

Not just say they'll pay for.

Make something that they see and will immediately take out their cash/cc/paypal/venmo and pay for on the spot.

If you can get that far, things start to fall into place. As others have noted, consulting may be necessary to keep things going.

This may not be applicable to capital-intensive fields, regulated industries, enterprise SaaS, but it works for a lot of B2C and even B2B startups.

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

#26

This is a classic B2C vs. B2B. Simply put B2C is tough without network effect or funding to build it. B2C - Customer/User has time, not money. B2B - Customer has money, not time.

B2B has its own set of challenges too. Making a sale can be a lot more complicated and take easily a year.

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

#27
First off thanks so much for your transparency. Great article and humility that will certainly help the many others in your same situation (like me).

I share your frustrations, but I see things from a different perspective when doing side projects for a few reasons:

1. I treat innovative ideas as potentially growing to something amazing and see them more as passion projects that help me to grow in many ways, including learning new technologies, learning other trades (e.g. marketing, sales).

2. I use my skills learned in side projects as bolsters to my resume. I can testify that I've been approached by employers and been seen as a better candidate than others based on the side project experience I've done. Further, I've gotten other side-gigs that are paying as a result of the side-gig skills I've acquired. Adding these hard and soft skills to your resume makes you a better candidate overall and opens opportunities otherwise unavailable without.

3. I still work a main gig that I (mostly) enjoy, which enables me financially to be able to spend my off-hours working on and funding my passion projects. This to me feels safer than going all in, although it could be argued things inevitably develop more slowly this way.

4. My reward for hard work is similar to open source development in that I'm creating something for humanity that wasn't available before, which may or may not make money, but benefits me for the reasons stated above.

Perspective helps here, and if it grows into something bigger then all the better. If it doesn't, then there are other benefits to doing it that help shape you and your skillset.

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

#28
Nice perseverance!

I'm not really a business expert, but when I hear about your failed projects it sounds like the marketing and distribution channels weren't really fully fleshed out. It's quite hard to get people to pay for things when you don't know exactly who they are, what they value, or where they hang out. This is a really common problem for developers creating product businesses apparently — you build something and nothing happens because nobody knows about it. I'm glad you feel like you have more momentum now though!

When you reflect on what you were doing in the last 12 years what do you think was going on that you could have improved?

Re: Failed for the past 12 years as an tech entrepreneur

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Thanks, perseverance and patience were the only things going well for me. My key takeaway would definitely to give products at least 2-3 years before shutting them down. Most apps take a long time to get noticed and SEO works only after a year of effort.

Wow you've pushed really hard on your own. Have you tried to collaborate with people with tangential skills, e.g. someone with excellent sales/marketing background or in a niche like real estate or law or whatever that has a ton of insights? Even for Blanq, maybe you could find someone that has a strong need for link shortening for their business, whatever it is?

Well observed!
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