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Against 3x Speed

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Re: Against 3x Speed

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the same youtube plugin mentioned in the article, and watch many videos at 2.5x-3.0x speed, for the exact reason that you state. There is a lot of "filler" content that I either a) already know or b) is not relevant to what I'm trying to learn. I'm really just trying to get through that content quickly. When I get to some really dense portion though, I will turn the speed down to 1x to learn it.

Which addon are you using for youtube?

I just modify it directly in the console (I have to search to look up the command every time).

Re: Against 3x Speed

#22
Reminds me of college - where you'd try to find ways to cram 4 months of lectures into 4 days. Unless you're on ADHD meds, studying 20 hours a day with laser focus, the next thing would be to take in as much information as possible...which included speeding up videos.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#23
post #4

I get the point you're making - but honestly I have to raise the counter argument, which I think is equally valid. Take for example, the average lecture video. The information density is so low, that I'd imagine that a 60 minute video could be compressed into 10-12 minutes without any loss of information. It really depends on what you're listening to/watching.

Honestly, maybe I'm just some old, out-of-touch luddite, but I think that using videos to pass information is sub-optimal all around.

Unless we're actually showing audio-visual phenomena, a page of text is almost always more useful to me. I can absorb it at my speed. I can go back and forth within it easily. I can search it. I can copy bits out if I need to. It's just better.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#24
Most of this isn't really about the speed, it's against rushing your way through as many pieces of content as possible.

If you decide a number of books per month up front, the question of how fast to read each one looks very different. Slowing down your first read will help retention to a point, but if you spend less time on the first read then you can do more spaced repetition later. Or if you read everything twice as fast, you could use the time you gain to work on projects.

And while the optimal first time speed probably isn't 3.0x, we definitely shouldn't assume it's 1.0x.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#25
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the same youtube plugin mentioned in the article, and watch many videos at 2.5x-3.0x speed, for the exact reason that you state. There is a lot of "filler" content that I either a) already know or b) is not relevant to what I'm trying to learn. I'm really just trying to get through that content quickly. When I get to some really dense portion though, I will turn the speed down to 1x to learn it.

Which addon are you using for youtube?

"" buttons decrease/increase playback speed (up to 2.0).

Re: Against 3x Speed

#26
post #5
post #4

I get the point you're making - but honestly I have to raise the counter argument, which I think is equally valid. Take for example, the average lecture video. The information density is so low, that I'd imagine that a 60 minute video could be compressed into 10-12 minutes without any loss of information. It really depends on what you're listening to/watching.

I use the same youtube plugin mentioned in the article, and watch many videos at 2.5x-3.0x speed, for the exact reason that you state. There is a lot of "filler" content that I either a) already know or b) is not relevant to what I'm trying to learn. I'm really just trying to get through that content quickly. When I get to some really dense portion though, I will turn the speed down to 1x to learn it.

> When I get to some really dense portion though, I will turn the speed down to 1x to learn it.

An alternative that often works is to open the transcript and simply read it. If you find something unclear you can click to jump to that point. Coursera classes have this feature too.

Obviously doesn't work for everything, but it's especially useful when you want to know more about a subject you already know about (say a programming language you've used but never formally learnt).

If I can't do this I usually just close the tab -- the information rate of a video is typically quite low.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#28
Whatever you can say about listening to a sped-up audiobook, you can say about casually reading (or, as most people who don't nerd out about the theory of learning would put it, "reading"), so the framing of this around audiobooks seems pretty weird. Obviously, you don't master a subject by casually reading a book about it --- that's not really the premise of reading.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#29
A year ago a friend encouraged me to start a podcast about the history of astronomy [0]. Talking to people who have listened to the podcast has been really eye-opening about the difference in comprehension/absorption between creating a podcast vs. listening to it.

I would notice that other podcasters in the "History of..." genre would sometimes say things like "you might remember we talked about such-and-such related thing in Episode 43..." and I would always think "how do they remember that they mentioned this particular detail dozens of episodes back?" But as I've started writing a podcast, I've found that it's a lot easier than I thought it would be. When you're writing the material vs. passively listening to it, you just have a much more intimate memory of everything you've said and it's easy to make connections across the different episodes.

I try to write the episodes to at have a few big points that I repeat throughout so that even someone passively listening will get the main message. But even still when I talk to people, they seem to have enjoyed it, but have a hard time remembering even some of the basic ideas. And I notice this with myself, too, when I listen to podcasts. Sometimes I'll be talking to someone and be reminded of some related story I heard in a podcast at one point, but when I try to recall the details, they're just not there.

So, even though I was certainly aware of it intellectually, I know have a much more visceral appreciation for the fact tha if you want to learn something deeply, there's really no substitute for doing some creative work on the subject.

[0]: Shameless plug: https://songofurania.com/about

Re: Against 3x Speed

#30
Although I realize the article is about actually learning vs. skimming info, something I've realized about "2x" speed on videos is really just matching my natural rate of reading, and I speed up / slow down depending on the speed of the speaker itself.
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