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Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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All my sites running through Cloudflare Tunnel are very very slow, but still just about online. As a side note, I'll take this opportunity call out the superb Checkmk monitoring system which alerted me to this. I don't see Checkmk mentioned on HN that often... https://checkmk.com EDIT: Seems to be fixed. Good job!

CheckMK offers pretty solid monitoring our of the box, but I think it falls quite short of the mark when you want to add more than the default monitoring. It's still probably the easiest solution for monitoring a bunch of basic VMs, servers, etc. You can set it up and get a solid idea of how it works in only a few hours.

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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Thanks for the post. Yesterday you strongly rebutted me for saying that the widespread outages also were impacting Cloudflare [0], even tho it wasn't obvious to me at that time who was being impacted by who. Knowing the intricate connections of all the app and infrastructure and cloud providers is tricky! When stuff goes down, the blame gets spread around. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29568319 edit: chang…

Is there a particular reason you perceived their response as "scolding?" It just looks like a straightforward answer.

In my experience, a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational. Euphemism and indirect implication is the norm in American communication, much to my dismay.

It can wrap around to extremes sometimes, too.

https://sneak.berlin/20191201/american-communication/

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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Unless the comment was edited, I don't think that was a "scolding" :-)

Probably my interpretation. I should have said "strong rebuttal". Edited my comment above ;)

Maybe "corrected"?

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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post #23

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Is there a particular reason you perceived their response as "scolding?" It just looks like a straightforward answer.

In my experience, a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational. Euphemism and indirect implication is the norm in American communication, much to my dismay. It can wrap around to extremes sometimes, too. https://sneak.berlin/20191201/american-communication/

It's possible it's cultural. Sometimes strong, absolute rebuttals come across as someone just trying to shut down a conversation and deny. Other times a direct answer is just a direct answer. The problem is that context and tone are helpful here.

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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post #23

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Is there a particular reason you perceived their response as "scolding?" It just looks like a straightforward answer.

In my experience, a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational. Euphemism and indirect implication is the norm in American communication, much to my dismay. It can wrap around to extremes sometimes, too. https://sneak.berlin/20191201/american-communication/

This is a fair statement. Didn't use to be this way - I blame the participation trophy era of kids.

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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post #23

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Is there a particular reason you perceived their response as "scolding?" It just looks like a straightforward answer.

In my experience, a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational. Euphemism and indirect implication is the norm in American communication, much to my dismay. It can wrap around to extremes sometimes, too. https://sneak.berlin/20191201/american-communication/

as a native, I can say this is absolutely true and also horrible for productive communication. particularly the pacific and mountain west is really rough.

Especially when discussing politics it can be confusing as hell trying to figure out what somebody really believes/wants because the tip toeing around egg shells can make the words impossible to decode.

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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post #23

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Is there a particular reason you perceived their response as "scolding?" It just looks like a straightforward answer.

In my experience, a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational. Euphemism and indirect implication is the norm in American communication, much to my dismay. It can wrap around to extremes sometimes, too. https://sneak.berlin/20191201/american-communication/

> a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational.

I think this can be said of the British too. Though we would probably make the mistake of interpreting it as rude rather than aggressive. As someone who doesn't communicate particularly directly, I often make this mistake myself.

Though I'm not sure which side of "the pond" is worse in this respect.

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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post #23

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In my experience, a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational. Euphemism and indirect implication is the norm in American communication, much to my dismay. It can wrap around to extremes sometimes, too. https://sneak.berlin/20191201/american-communication/

This is a fair statement. Didn't use to be this way - I blame the participation trophy era of kids.

You're engaging in it yourself right now by using euphemism/implication to suggest a certain type of person instead of just saying "whiny, overly sensitive children" (which I assume is what you mean).

You should remove the plank from your own eye, first.

You don't get to blame others for your voluntarily chosen courses of action.

Re: Cloudflare Experiencing Latency Issues

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post #23

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Is there a particular reason you perceived their response as "scolding?" It just looks like a straightforward answer.

In my experience, a lot of Americans interpret direct, no-wasted-word statements as aggressive or confrontational. Euphemism and indirect implication is the norm in American communication, much to my dismay. It can wrap around to extremes sometimes, too. https://sneak.berlin/20191201/american-communication/

This reminds me of the younger generation sometimes perceiving messages ending in a period as rude.

I'm also sometimes surprised by how effectively a simple statement like "I don't want to spend money on that" can shut down even a pushy salesman. Or even the simple "No." can work wonders.

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