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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by illTellu »

beervirus wrote: post #6

Color me shocked. Why does anyone use Chrome anymore? Firefox is better in every way, and it isn’t tied to the biggest data harvester the world has ever known.

Because Firefox on PC has significantly worse performance.

It's slower and it's buggier.

"But it's not slower and buggier for me"

That's nice ancedote. I also have an ancedote, Firefox is buggy/slow on 2 of my computers. 1 of my computers is fine. I already reinstalled and reformated. At some point I can't be blamed.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by butz »

Flankk wrote: post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

uBlock Origin can do much more than block ads: you can block annoying live chat scripts, cookie banners, disable JavaScript for specific domains, and even limit maximum size of assets downloaded from website (e.g. huge gif files, images or videos). It's amazing how much faster browsing becomes with correctly customized uBlock Origin.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by feanaro »

Flankk wrote: post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

I personally don't care about "content creators". I create a lot of content for free because it's useful for me in other ways and interesting on its own.

Modern ads are surveillance tech and I want to see that die at any cost. Ads would then either have to adapt to stop being surveillance-based or the most interesting "content creators" would adapt to monetize in other ways.

I really don't see a future in which interesting "content" just stops existing just because tracking ads don't exist. If people want things, they will appear and eventually will be able to be monetized in some way.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by blackearl »

mcny wrote: post #15
beervirus wrote: post #6

Color me shocked. Why does anyone use Chrome anymore? Firefox is better in every way, and it isn’t tied to the biggest data harvester the world has ever known.

I think people just don't know what they don't know. Firefox containers is awesome. I can type amazon.com and it will automatically open in my shopping container (after some configuration). I can type messenger.com and it opens in Facebook container out of the box. We even have container sync now so you can sync these settings across browsers. Mozilla isn't perfect though. I don't understand the decision to get rid o…

My understanding is their password manager is now fully part of the browser and you can enable it to act as a password manager for other apps as well. I just tested adding an email account and got the option to "unlock firefox" and input credentials

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

Flankk wrote: post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

I'm going to back up the GP on this!

HN users tend to get annoyed by (1) ads, (2) paywalls, and (3) articles without enough research (aka time aka money). I'm cognizant of the fact that HN isn't a hive mind, and so these complaints aren't necessarily coming from the same people—but some certainly are.

Well, which is it? Or do we expect content creators to work for free?

If we have to pick a poison—and, well, I think we do—the ad model has one major advantage: accessibility. If we want to make information available to as many people as possible, an ad-supported model is the way to do it. Paywalls lock out everyone at the lower end of the income bracket, and force everyone consume content from only a smaller number of sources (since subscribing to every website is impractical).

This isn't to ignore all of the negative social consequences of advertising. The question isn't whether ads are bad, because they absolutely are—the question is whether they're worth the cost of accessible journalism.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by sva_ »

dawnerd wrote: post #18

How about posting what we’re losing for those out of the loop. That Reddit link is pretty useless.

From what I gather, this "Manifestv3" will change the permission system of browser extensions. Extensions won't be able to inject themselves into any website anymore, hence adblockers, which do this, won't function anymore. This may not be completely accurate, but I think is the gist of it. Maybe someone can correct me.

The Chrome devs claim that this is to enhance user security, but I have my doubts about that.

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