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Bob Dole has died

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Re: Bob Dole has died

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“I do not need the presidency to make or refresh my soul. For greatness lies not in what office you hold, but on how honest you are in how you face adversity and in your willingness to stand fast in hard places.”

That's not a bad quote

Actually, whole obituary is worth a read - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/05/bob-dole-sol...

This is a left wing British paper.

Re: Bob Dole has died

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Like John McCain, Dole’s politics did not agree with mine but he went through some serious sh*t serving our country, so a heartfelt “thank you.”

So much better and mature than the typical Reddit comment when a conservative dies. Hopefully HN doesn't degenerate too fast, the maturity level is what keeps me here.

Depends on the conservative, but McCain, Dole -- those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics.

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post #3

"As a 21-year-old platoon leader, Dole was trying to pull a radioman from the line of fire when he was struck in the upper back and right arm...It took three years of treatment and countless setbacks before he was able to recover from the wounds, although he lost the use of his right arm and most of the feeling in his left." Thank you for your military service Senator. Rest in peace.

Simping the military is one of silicon valley’s longest traditions!

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Like John McCain, Dole’s politics did not agree with mine but he went through some serious sh*t serving our country, so a heartfelt “thank you.”

When serving your country means participating in imperialist war and murder, I think it is ok to uh not thank them. McCain VOLUNTEERED to bomb a bunch of g*ks in his own wonderful words.

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much better and mature than the typical Reddit comment when a conservative dies. Hopefully HN doesn't degenerate too fast, the maturity level is what keeps me here.

Depends on the conservative, but McCain, Dole -- those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics.

how do you think Vietnamese people should feel about McCain and Dole?

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I always wonder if the Republicans nominated him in 1996 because they thought he could win or just as honorary thing given they probably couldn’t win with anyone. It felt like one of the most lopsided elections of my lifetime (I was too young to pay attention to politics when Dukakis ran.)

Hard to say. Considering that Biden got way more votes than Obama, I realized it was Obama riding Biden coat-tails all along. Biden was then the gifted orator it seems. Bill was lucky the economy did well I guess. I think Mick's shot in 2012 was also quite lopsided.

Are you talking about absolute vote count, or margin of victory? Obama's margin of victory in the electoral college was much greater in 2008 and 2012 vs. Biden's. Obama's popular vote margin was greater in 2008 and roughly equal in 2012, vs. Biden's.

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post #26
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on the conservative, but McCain, Dole -- those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics.

how do you think Vietnamese people should feel about McCain and Dole?

For McCain they view him fairly well (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/08/27/how-vietnam-...) and idk for Dole but I'd be surprised if they knew him (he didn't fight in vietnam btw if that's what your implying)

Re: Bob Dole has died

#29

I always wonder if the Republicans nominated him in 1996 because they thought he could win or just as honorary thing given they probably couldn’t win with anyone. It felt like one of the most lopsided elections of my lifetime (I was too young to pay attention to politics when Dukakis ran.)

Hard to say. Considering that Biden got way more votes than Obama, I realized it was Obama riding Biden coat-tails all along. Biden was then the gifted orator it seems. Bill was lucky the economy did well I guess. I think Mick's shot in 2012 was also quite lopsided.

> Hard to say. Considering that Biden got way more votes than Obama, I realized it was Obama riding Biden coat-tails all along.

Can you please elaborate? I don’t remember anyone giving 1/2 a thought about Biden in 2008/2012. I am under such a different impression that I am left wondering if this was supposed to be sarcasm.

Re: Bob Dole has died

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post #5

This has been a week of discovering people I'd assumed were dead were still alive (although in this case, not so much anymore). The other one is Henry Kissinger whom I'd assumed had died decades ago but it turns out is still alive and putting his name on books.

he was involved with theranos

Probably more accurate to say 'fooled by Theranos'. I don't recall reading a single jot about his being part of the founding.
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