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Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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The internet is increasingly getting censored. Boldened by the recent deplatforming of Alex Jones and Donald Trump as well as censorship of news that doesn’t fit their narratives has created a slippery slope. It’s time to take a hardline stance against censorship. If we don’t do it now, future generations will never forgive us.

Given that there's a long history of media manipulation in this country (e.g. Hearst, Yellow Journalism, etc), what would you determine qualifies as censorship? Personally I have no issue with blocking people who clearly are abusing their platforms for personal gain.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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People complain about misinformation and censorship (on Hacker News of all places) but where is it? https://youtu.be/R2EiuAVKFB0 I found the video by searching on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=yeonmi+pa... Why exactly is this being upvoted? Give me a break.

The video is available via direct link, as you have demonstrated, but it’s delisted: https://mobile.twitter.com/TKDSayan/status/14658291871267143... The video is essentially hellbanned. [edit] It’s listed now if I click back to Park’s account page. Glitch or anti-Streisand maneuver? Impossible to tell.

https://imgur.com/a/WmikJK6

Cannot reproduce.

I suspect upvoters did not attempt to reproduce, which is why everyone saying this is a thing is using a secondary source instead of posting their own screenshots.

The cause is worthwhile but this is just a self promoter who knows that certain sections of the internet are gullible retransmitters for certain memes. Flagging the submission.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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I don't know if it's been debunked, but I like the analogy of the Hygiene hypothesis and increased allergies. If you disinfect and sterilize everything you don't train your immune system and are at risk for allergies, but if you don't disinfect and sterilize you get infections, so you need to find a balance. Same thing here, I think we're heading into the over-sterilization area of the curve, and maybe we should thin…

Many people want to live in communes or echo chambers. The problem occurs when they force and apply that to others in society, academia and the Internet. The elites will just use them as the ruse to stifle discussion and free thought.

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I support even grifters to have a platform for their voice. One's grifter maybe another's leader.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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I dont run a YT channel, but "Restrictions: ad suitability," suggests that the video is still available (e.g., via URL), but Google is not recommending it because advertisers don't want to be associated with it because of the corpse in the thumbnail (term?).

Yeah it's still listed on her channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/YeonmiParkOfficial/videos . I'm curious what "visibility: unlisted" means. Would it show up in the feed of a subscriber?

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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Hakim did a very good short introduction [0] on defectors in general and how this term is used in our media. In the video, he also briefly brings up Yeonmi Pak's story and how it's changed over time as well as the conflicts of interest of speaking income. The video is more about defectors in general and how defectors are portrayed and presented to us, so he doesn't spend a lot of time on Yeonmi Pak's story.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBwZjBMbsK0

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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The video is "unlisted", meaning it can be accessed by URL. When you upload a video, you can choose to make it Private (only you can watch it), Unlisted (anyone can watch it if they have the link), or Public (anyone can find it even if you don't have the link). Not sure this qualifies as "censorship" by any definition.

I have a bunch of unlisted videos myself, e.g. "audition tapes" when applying for an acting role. I want the people who I send it to to be able to watch it, but I don't want it to be findable. Nothing nefarious about this.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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If this is true: anyone got alternative apps to YT on android? Voting with my wallet.

People often say Odysee is a good alternative but it was acquired by Google so it has the same issue as Youtube. Then there is Rumble but it's a much poorer experience and somewhat of an echo chamber but that seems to be changing as a more diverse group of non-political creators move over there.

Re: YouTube had censored North Korean defector Yeonmi Park

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post #25

I dont run a YT channel, but "Restrictions: ad suitability," suggests that the video is still available (e.g., via URL), but Google is not recommending it because advertisers don't want to be associated with it because of the corpse in the thumbnail (term?).

Yeah it's still listed on her channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/YeonmiParkOfficial/videos . I'm curious what "visibility: unlisted" means. Would it show up in the feed of a subscriber?

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