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Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Post by jansan »

hhariri wrote: post #8
nikitaga wrote: post #7

Meanwhile IntelliJ is rotting with months-old bugs that render entire features useless, with no fixes and no ETAs in sight. The only product that I pay money for that constantly, on almost every release, pains me with new bugs, a good portion of which are never fixed. I thought about using other Jetbrains products like DataGrip (and now this Fleet), but I'm not going to invest even more into a company that simply ref…

IntelliJ IDEA along with the platform is the largest team at JetBrains and we're constantly working on bugs and features. If you can please point me to the issues you're referring to in YouTrack, I can check the status.

Not OP and quite satisfied with your products, but I want to take this opportunity to point at this issue for which I really would like to see some progress:

https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WEB-48756

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Post by jpe90 »

denofevil wrote: post #17
jpe90 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the JVM portion still using Swing? And can you share any details about what you're using Rust for?

Briefly: no, it's a custom reactive UI framework similar to Jetpack Compose. Rust is used for native operations such as accessing file system, launching processes, etc

Interesting that you would use Rust for those operations since the JVM was already presumably giving you cross-platform implementations. Was that a significant performance bottleneck that got alleviated by using Rust, or was there another reason?

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Post by EugeneOZ »

hhariri wrote: post #14
EugeneOZ wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was reporting a lot of bugs to them initially, but so many of them were ignored that I can’t force myself to do this anymore. I’m still paying for IDEA Ultimate, but it's only because I’m waiting for a better IDE with a more fair subscription system (when I cancel the subscription that was at least 1 year long, I should have the LATEST version I’ve paid for, not the first one). I will try Feet, of course, but I hav…

Are these on YouTrack? Under same username as here?

Yes. Username is OZ.

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Post by albertzeyer »

This looks very interesting.

This was almost overdue. Since the beginning of Covid, the need for good remote code development raised quite a bit (at least for many people I know, including our team). When compared to VS Code and its remote editing over SSH, IntelliJ was really lacking. I know of a couple of people who went away from PyCharm just because of this.

Related reports: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-19752, https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-226455

I tried Code With Me but this seems limited to 10 minutes in the free version or so, and also not really intended for remote editing but more for pair programming.

> hosted in Space

What does this mean? I have not really explored this so far. Can I host private own Space instances? I can imagine this would be a requirement in many environments.

Is Space an alternative to GitHub or other hosting solutions? We would not want to move our code, issues and internal project management over to some other platform. We just want good remote editing support.

Will there be a free community version of Fleet?

Anyway, I applied for an invitation to Fleet Preview. Maybe I can get a chance soon to try it out.

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Post by fps_doug »

nikitaga wrote: post #7

Meanwhile IntelliJ is rotting with months-old bugs that render entire features useless, with no fixes and no ETAs in sight. The only product that I pay money for that constantly, on almost every release, pains me with new bugs, a good portion of which are never fixed. I thought about using other Jetbrains products like DataGrip (and now this Fleet), but I'm not going to invest even more into a company that simply ref…

The only language I ever really use IntelliJ for is PHP, and apart from minor issues that usually get fixed within one or two updates it's fantastic. Maybe I got lucky here, or maybe it's because every other IDE for PHP is next to useless, so it's easy for IntelliJ to shine.

Re: JetBrains Fleet: The Next-Generation IDE by JetBrains

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Post by denofevil »

jpe90 wrote: post #25
denofevil wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Briefly: no, it's a custom reactive UI framework similar to Jetpack Compose. Rust is used for native operations such as accessing file system, launching processes, etc

Interesting that you would use Rust for those operations since the JVM was already presumably giving you cross-platform implementations. Was that a significant performance bottleneck that got alleviated by using Rust, or was there another reason?

Whole architecture of Fleet is distributed, so we need a small binary without dependencies that could be uploaded to the dev container. All the access goes through that binary (even in local case)
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