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Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by jimsimmons »

rconti wrote: post #18
jimsimmons wrote: post #11

As a recovering addict I’m quite mixed about legalisation. On one hand it helps out a lot of people and removes stigma around a form of indulgence. At the same time this is probably creating orders of magnitude more addicts. The adverse effects of a strong dependence can be severe: from people letting life blast past them without much realisation to lung/brain function/psychological disorders. I wish we could have a…

> probably creating orders of magnitude more addicts [citation needed]

If there’s x% chance of addiction and the availability increases by few orders of magnitude wouldn’t it naturally follow?

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by pimeys »

daptaq wrote: post #12

Hope this won't lead to more smoking in public places. Every time I notice people consuming or having have had consumed the drug in some form, I found it even more insufferable than day-to-day cigarettes.

In Berlin tobacco and weed smoke is everywhere. I don't really see how legalizing weed would make it any worse. People already smoke it in bars and on the streets and Germany loves their cigarettes too...

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by Ericson2314 »

sturza wrote: post #9
canadianwriter wrote: post #5

Mostly off topic but when I read these stories I'm always irked at the use of "marijuana" instead of cannabis. Maybe because I'm in Toronto where cannabis is fully legal and every store around me that sells it uses cannabis - not to mention the products all use that term as well. Marijuana just seems like your using old, slightly racist terminology. And makes me think of 4/20 BLAZE IT kind of crap. Which is probably…

Marijuana is the dried leaves and flowers of the Cannabis sativa or Cannabis indica plant. I cannot imagine how the term is racist. But the fact thay it makes you think of 420, that’s just you.

Marijuana was like a barely existing Spanish slang promoted at the beginning of cannabis being illegal in the first half of the 20th century to make cannabis seem more foreign and worthy of a ban.

It's definitely suspicious at least. If you really want you can view it as more cynically exploiting existing prejudice than prejudiced in and of itself, but I am not sure that is much of an exoneration.

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by chishaku »

jimsimmons wrote: post #21
rconti wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> probably creating orders of magnitude more addicts [citation needed]

If there’s x% chance of addiction and the availability increases by few orders of magnitude wouldn’t it naturally follow?

No.

There is precedent in various US states and a handful of countries.

Cost benefit analysis of what is actually happening in these places is a key motivator for the continued wave of legalization around the world.

This is much studied.

DYOR but here's a start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=portugal+drug+policy&hl...

Also, I'm not sure if you literally mean "a few orders of magnitude" or are using that phrase to simply mean "an increase".

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by couchand »

canadianwriter wrote: post #5

Mostly off topic but when I read these stories I'm always irked at the use of "marijuana" instead of cannabis. Maybe because I'm in Toronto where cannabis is fully legal and every store around me that sells it uses cannabis - not to mention the products all use that term as well. Marijuana just seems like your using old, slightly racist terminology. And makes me think of 4/20 BLAZE IT kind of crap. Which is probably…

If you'll believe it, here in 2021 the state of New York passed a law with "marihuana" (sic) in the name!

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by immmmmm »

jimsimmons wrote: post #21
rconti wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> probably creating orders of magnitude more addicts [citation needed]

If there’s x% chance of addiction and the availability increases by few orders of magnitude wouldn’t it naturally follow?

no. legalisation or at least decriminalisation can lead to less use, as was the case in portugal for instance.

Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by [deleted] »

oblak wrote: post #19
daptaq wrote: post #12

Hope this won't lead to more smoking in public places. Every time I notice people consuming or having have had consumed the drug in some form, I found it even more insufferable than day-to-day cigarettes.

ok, I'll bite. Why is it worse, I mean "insufferable"? The whole point is not to be hunted for the horrible crime of smoking a joint. Is it any worse than drinking coffee or something? I think not but you obviously have your reservations.

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Re: Germany will legalize marijuana and promote drug harm reduction

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Post by yodsanklai »

jimsimmons wrote: post #21
rconti wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> probably creating orders of magnitude more addicts [citation needed]

If there’s x% chance of addiction and the availability increases by few orders of magnitude wouldn’t it naturally follow?

No. Because availability is high already. Especially for teenagers who are most vulnerable to addiction. Also, making it legal can also help promoting safe usage, rather than simply pretending the problem doesn't exist.
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