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Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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A point a lot of people seem to miss is that there is a huge difference between making a vaccination mandatory, taking full responsibility for any side effects, and forcing people to get vaccinated by depriving them of their basic rights if they don't, but not taking any responsibility for side effects.

Would you mind explaining the difference between how these two scenarios play out, in practice?

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Are they also planning to implement a forced vaccination for the unwilling?

You do realize, a lot of vaccines are already mandatory all around the world right?

No they are not, you have a choice. Also in this case you have a choice, take the jab, leave the country or ehhh...get vaccinated forcefully? Commit suicide? Anyway, whatever, there is a choice and they have consequences or something. We live in a democracy you know.

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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You do realize, a lot of vaccines are already mandatory all around the world right?

Maybe some of them are mandatory for a child after birth (though I question it because anyway doctors should get parent's signature to do it). But how could you force an adult who is totally ok with lockdown? Cut all access to basic necessities? Make police involved? How?

>though I question it because anyway doctors should get parent's signature to do it

In my European country we got tuberculosis and hepatitis jabs in high school. There wasn't any permission or signature involved, we were just taken the whole class to the nurse's office, got the jab and that's it.

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Are they also planning to implement a forced vaccination for the unwilling?

You do realize, a lot of vaccines are already mandatory all around the world right?

I thought that this is a very unusual step that Austria's taking, so I did some reading...

Germany, Austria and Switzerland don't have any mandatory vaccines for the general population. Only in Germany is vaccination against measles mandatory for children and caregivers (daycare, etc).

Austria in particular had no mandatory vaccination at all until they announced it now.

France and Italy seem to have many mandatory vaccinations for children.

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize, a lot of vaccines are already mandatory all around the world right?

Maybe some of them are mandatory for a child after birth (though I question it because anyway doctors should get parent's signature to do it). But how could you force an adult who is totally ok with lockdown? Cut all access to basic necessities? Make police involved? How?

No one is going to be given the vaccine by force. Like you said, as an adult you can choose not to have it, you will just lose access to a lot of things, just like an unvaccinated child isn't accepted into kindergarden. If you don't want to have it then fine, stay locked up at home forever, that's your choice.

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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A point a lot of people seem to miss is that there is a huge difference between making a vaccination mandatory, taking full responsibility for any side effects, and forcing people to get vaccinated by depriving them of their basic rights if they don't, but not taking any responsibility for side effects.

We have free universal healthcare in Austria. And the state carries responsibility for problems as long as a vaccine has been officially approved. It was possible to get COVID vaccine before approval (off label it's called) but you assume responsibility.

Also mandatory vaccines are not new either

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211029-why-mandatory-va...

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Are they also planning to implement a forced vaccination for the unwilling?

No, but there will be fines ("Verwaltungsstrafen", which can be converted to "Ersatzfreiheitsstrafen" - jail time - if you are unable or unwilling to pay).

How much? So rich wackos get a practically free pass, or will the fines be adjusted to weath?

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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A point a lot of people seem to miss is that there is a huge difference between making a vaccination mandatory, taking full responsibility for any side effects, and forcing people to get vaccinated by depriving them of their basic rights if they don't, but not taking any responsibility for side effects.

unwilling to get vaccinated is at least from a legal perspective not a "basic right". Austria had compulsory vaccination before (Smallpox). Measles vaccination is mandatory in Germany. The law is that during a pandemic the country is able to impose mandatory vaccinations.

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_policy#Compulsory_...

Re: Austria makes Covid19 vaccination mandatory as of Feb 2022

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize, a lot of vaccines are already mandatory all around the world right?

I thought that this is a very unusual step that Austria's taking, so I did some reading... Germany, Austria and Switzerland don't have any mandatory vaccines for the general population. Only in Germany is vaccination against measles mandatory for children and caregivers (daycare, etc). Austria in particular had no mandatory vaccination at all until they announced it now. France and Italy seem to have many mandatory v…

Desperate times and all that. With a incident rate of >1000 (and a lot higher in some hotspots), hospitals are at their breaking point right now.
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