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Woah as a Svelte user I'm super happy and this is going to change everything. I can only speculate as to the reasons behind this decision by Vercel. Why Svelte and not Preact for example? In any case, congrats Rich!
More here: https://vercel.com/blog/vercel-welcomes-rich-harris-creator-...
Well, this is awesome -- but fuck me: Vue is the only major player not under the Vercel umbrella now, haha. Looks like I might have to phone in half a decade of experience. Svelte is close enough to Vue with "script setup" mode anyways, the major difference is whether your logic/keywords go INSIDE the HTML tags or OUTSIDE. Svelte doesn't support JSX/TSX though =(
Lee from Vercel here. The governance of Svelte isn't changing – it's still the same independent, open-source project and community. We're just supporting Rich and helping the project grow!
Benefits of being a framework owned by a business that makes a lot of money off of it.
Next.js 12 as any indicator, I'm just going with whatever falls under the Vercel umbrella now -- I can tell you that Nuxt is not a competitor (as an unbiased voice and someone who doesn't particularly love React).
Well, this is awesome -- but fuck me: Vue is the only major player not under the Vercel umbrella now, haha. Looks like I might have to phone in half a decade of experience. Svelte is close enough to Vue with "script setup" mode anyways, the major difference is whether your logic/keywords go INSIDE the HTML tags or OUTSIDE. Svelte doesn't support JSX/TSX though =(
You have https://www.solidjs.com/ that does
It'd be more fun if I could do it in something that wasn't in Javascript or one of its Frankenstein cousins.
Well, this is awesome -- but fuck me: Vue is the only major player not under the Vercel umbrella now, haha. Looks like I might have to phone in half a decade of experience. Svelte is close enough to Vue with "script setup" mode anyways, the major difference is whether your logic/keywords go INSIDE the HTML tags or OUTSIDE. Svelte doesn't support JSX/TSX though =(
I love Vue because I come from a bygone era of HTML + sprinkling jQuery as needed. 99% of the websites don't need a full blown JS frontend but everyone is doing it, I must be wrong.
I think if most designers took existing web elements and tried to build a UI, instead of drawing an arbitrary picture and asked devs to implement, we would have much less JS overall.
Is this a bet against React or a bet for ecosystem variety and choice? I feel it's the latter right now.
I used to be a web developer, now I'm a React Native / RNW developer.
I don't use web tech unless I'm making a simple web page, when I do I use vanilla HTML/CSS/optional JS.
You get a web app for free when you make a RN app. You can share 95% of code among 5 platforms. (web, windows, macos, ios, android)
Conditionals can change any styling you need amongst them. You can swap out scripts depending on platforms, you can access any extra native platform function with extensions.
Svelte doesn't work for me because you need JS. I don't want to need JS for simple web pages, for apps I need cross-platform.
Svelte could work well for edge computing like CF workers.
Well, this is awesome -- but fuck me: Vue is the only major player not under the Vercel umbrella now, haha. Looks like I might have to phone in half a decade of experience. Svelte is close enough to Vue with "script setup" mode anyways, the major difference is whether your logic/keywords go INSIDE the HTML tags or OUTSIDE. Svelte doesn't support JSX/TSX though =(
Is this a bet against React or a bet for ecosystem variety and choice? I feel it's the latter right now.
Having worked with React for about 5 years (with a project in Vue in-between) and now having dabbled with Svelte, there is just something more appealing working with less higher-level abstractions. Sure with large apps React does have its benefits and its ecosystem is larger by a good amount.
But there is just something about being less annoying that to me is perhaps one of the most important things with any tool. If I enjoy using it, I don't mind that it may not be the "current best choice" of the moment. People who enjoy MobX especially I think ought to find Svelte quite nice.
Sure though would wish SvelteKit was at the same level with Next.js. Fixing dev server errors is a little distracting at times.
svelte + deno should be the perfect combination for the next age of web development.