I'm Gen Z. Most Gen Zs are socialists (we actually know what it means) with a small minority of libertarians. Very few would want to work for the CIA.
> Thirty-one percent of voters ages 18 to 24 supported Trump in November, according to exit polls, down from 37 percent in 2016. From NBC. Sure, 37% isn't "most", but I think it's a fair guess that if 37% supported Trump, well under 50% of the total are socialists.
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#22Does anybody else have an issue where it just loads a blank page?
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#23> One would think it’s basically impossible to get millennials and zoomers into covert jobs. The youngest of this bunch of young people have spent their entire lives online, some since their parents blasted out their first ultrasound picture as a pregnancy announcement, before they’d even gained sentience. > how exactly are you supposed to achieve this level of anonymity when you’ve flung untold reams of identifiable…
Anecdotally my kids have their social media profiles set to "private" and don't have any motivation to make them public. In fact, most of their friends with a few exceptions have the same setup. They also regularly "wash" their profiles because they're kids and are constantly redefining themselves to their peers. Good luck finding any of that in a public archive.
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#24I'm Gen Z. Most Gen Zs are socialists (we actually know what it means) with a small minority of libertarians. Very few would want to work for the CIA.
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#25True story: I went to a job interview on Redstone Arsenal which meant I needed to get a vehicle pass. The recruiter sent me an email asking for my SSN; I replied that I wasn't comfortable sending it via email and then called him with it.
The next day I received a CC: copy of the email request to the Arsenal visitor center, including my SSN. I was unimpressed.
"what I’m told is a very contentious parking situation where lots of spots are so far from the office that a shuttle has to transport employees from their cars to their desks (a spy’s supposedly glamorous life actually laced with drudgery and inconvenience—how very John le Carré)..."
The parking spots nearest the building I used to work in, when we went in to work, were numbered and reserved for particular NASA employees. Many of those employees worked 7:30 to 3:30, so when I typically wandered in half were empty and when I left they were all empty. But if I, contractor peon (which makes up 70-90% of our organization), were to park there I would get a ticket from NASA Protective Services. There were a few general parking spaces closer than those, but they were routinely taken by NASA employees because they were a few feet closer than their assigned spaces. We parked out on the outskirts.
(P.s. The vast majority of CIA employees are not spies.)
"Demographic data from four years after that (2019), collected by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, revealed that intelligence agencies were still behind the federal and civil workforce in minority representation and that the spy agencies’ head counts were 61 percent male, 39 percent female."
Way back in the '90s, I had a friend of Indian descent whose sister worked for the FBI. She said her sister was always getting pestered about moving into investigative field work because no one would suspect she was undercover.
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#26On Gen Z CIA recruits having pre-existing social media presences: > They’re shrewd enough either to be circumspect users of social media from the start or to review (and delete) old problematic tweets and posts. Is this particularly effective, though? Most social media sites have been scraped to hell and back - surely there's archives of the old problematic stuff. It must be tough working in counterintelligence these…
If you control the search engines you can just make it hard to find.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Thirty-one percent of voters ages 18 to 24 supported Trump in November, according to exit polls, down from 37 percent in 2016. From NBC. Sure, 37% isn't "most", but I think it's a fair guess that if 37% supported Trump, well under 50% of the total are socialists.
You keep saying 37% as if that is the most relevant number when it's not. the 31% from last year is both more indicative of recent trends and cuts deeper into the Gen Z demographic. I think a good chunk of people who were 18-24 in 2016 would still be considered Millennials.
FWIW if we had a viable, actual socialist party, I'd vote & even campaign for them. But I think you're way wrong about how far things are shifting, with Gen Z, unfortunately. I do hope I'm the one who's wrong, but I doubt it.
I'm a millennial, but if I look at my social group (mostly gen-z through gen-x) it's nearly all socialists and left- or off-the-spectrum-anarchists[EDIT: probably a couple would identify, specifically, as left-libertarian, now that I think about it, which is very unlike right-libertarian—at least one of those might pointedly insist on just calling the left-libertarian position "liberal"]. That's my bubble, though, and doesn't reflect the proportions for the rest of the country.
[EDIT] Maybe we have different thresholds or definitions of "socialist"? I'd believe that over half of Gen Z wants a "public option" for healthcare, and maybe even M4A, for instance. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some Gen Z Trumpers want those (Trump did, oddly enough, give some lip-service to reform in that direction in his campaigns, though not to M4A)
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#28" When you pull up to the CIA headquarters in Langley, you have to shout your Social Security number out the window into a speaker, like when you’re ordering fries at a drive-through. Much like the Union that the Agency was formed to protect, the system, it seems, could be more perfect. " True story: I went to a job interview on Redstone Arsenal which meant I needed to get a vehicle pass. The recruiter sent me an ema…
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#30I'm Gen Z. Most Gen Zs are socialists (we actually know what it means) with a small minority of libertarians. Very few would want to work for the CIA.
Actual socialists had secret police. Every government has intelligence services. What do you think being a socialist means and what does that have to do with working for the CIA?
Now once the socialist regime sets up secret police, it will be utterly benevolent and work solely toward emancipation of the working class.