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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by tehbeard »

zeroflow wrote: post #11
BossingAround wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

Well, If you look at both the PS5 and XBox One X, both of them are running customized AMD SoC's. But basically, that's just a AMD APU. If my memory serves me correctly, the PS3 for comparison had a custom Cell CPU which was used for supercomputer clusters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster So they must have had some kind of edge compared to normal PCs.

The cell CPU was something like a dual core with 6 additional, specialised stream processors. I think the closest analogue might be a a CPU with a few cuda cores on the die?

It didn't work too well from my understanding, difficult to develop anything that could make use of those streaming cores that was worth it over a traditional multicore chip with more cores.

Useful for scientific community though.

If anyone knows what the spe cores were used for in games, I'd be very interested to know.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by AussieWog93 »

rbanffy wrote: post #8
5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a third world country. What's funny is we have a lot of PlayStations and powerful video cards and top-level processors available. We just don't have any money to buy them. Maybe I should set up a mail-order business to serve Western hardware enthusiasts.

That’s a clever business idea. Governments will usually demand you register a company in order to be able to legally export them.

>Governments will usually demand you register a company in order to be able to legally export them.

Nah. As long as you don't sell many, you can get away with just marking as gift and putting a value of 20 USD on the package.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by vermilingua »

causi wrote: post #9
kungito wrote: post #2

Can someone explain what are the consequences of this? Can this be patched? Does this mean cracking games will be possible?

If you disconnect your PS5 from the internet now, then yes, probably, in a few years. I would anticipate Sony using updates and e-fuses to prevent its use on any console that stays live.

From the thread:

> Can these be rotated easily?

> No.

We might get lucky.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by Gigachad »

solarkraft wrote: post #19
BossingAround wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

But aren’t modern consoles generally pretty good PCs at comparatively low prices?

Sort of. When they came out, the specs were pretty good and the price was good. But supply shortages meant that realistically, you are paying more than RRP anyway.

And it’s not like you will be able to install windows on a ps5 and use it as a replacement PC even if it is theoretically possible.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by hnlmorg »

solarkraft wrote: post #19
BossingAround wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

But aren’t modern consoles generally pretty good PCs at comparatively low prices?

No. Consoles aren't good general computing devices. But they are good at specific domains of computing.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

BossingAround wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #4

Better translation from: [0] > It means ultimately that decrypted firmware files will be available for hackers. This would make reverse engineering of the PS5 firmware possible, and from there, open possibilities for finding future exploits and/or write custom firmwares or Homebrew enablers. [0] https://wololo.net/2021/11/08/ps5-exploit-fail0verflow-show-...

> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

I don't use cracked games or SW but would like my game consoles jailbroken for general computing after they become obsolete i.e. no new games support them (or) no SW updates. A computer is a computer, anything which could be converted into a general computer is a win for me and for the environment.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by mercer »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #7
innocentoldguy wrote: post #5

If only people could obtain a Playstation 5 to go along with them.

I live in a third world country. What's funny is we have a lot of PlayStations and powerful video cards and top-level processors available. We just don't have any money to buy them. Maybe I should set up a mail-order business to serve Western hardware enthusiasts.

While I can't judge how good your plan is, FWIW I've often regretted saying 'maybe' when later I realized it would've worked, or at least been worth trying. But then it was no longer a good idea...

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by robin_reala »

Gigachad wrote: post #24
solarkraft wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But aren’t modern consoles generally pretty good PCs at comparatively low prices?

Sort of. When they came out, the specs were pretty good and the price was good. But supply shortages meant that realistically, you are paying more than RRP anyway. And it’s not like you will be able to install windows on a ps5 and use it as a replacement PC even if it is theoretically possible.

Sure, but you might be able to install Linux for example.

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by _notreallyme_ »

aufhebung wrote: post #3

As someone who isn't in the jailbreaking space I don't really know what this means. Can you sign your own PS5 code and run it on the hardware?

No, signing is done with asymmetric keys. Someone sign with their private key so you can verify it with their public key, basically. Symmetric keys are used to encrypt the code for updates, generally to prevent unintentional leak of secrets or just to prevent reverse engineering.

I'm not in the jailbreaking space, but I guess that what it means here is that some people may find flaws in the code and leverage them to potentially bypass the signature verification, although this might prove very difficult to do. It might also help emulating the PS5 behavior which in turns could lead to some modding/cheating for some games. Who knows ?

Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by p1necone »

8draco8 wrote: post #16
throwaway2077 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I want to play pirated games" is a perfectly legitimate reason

This is the true reason that I feel like everybody are dancing around. Let's not lie to ourselves, hacking consoles in PS1, PS2 and DC era was for pirating games. Running unlicensed apps or linux was just a nice side effect of true goal. This days it's far less popular because of size, connectivity and prices of games.

That might be the true reason for the average person downloading it and jailbreaking their own system, but the dev side of the ps3 jailbreaking scene only really started in earnest when Sony patched out the OtherOS feature.

You couldn't run PS3 games via OtherOS, but hackers didn't care because running their own code really is all they care about.

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