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High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Adding another datapoint, I went Keto, no carbs/no sugar, grass fed meat and vegetables, eggs, some dairy. I have never felt better in my whole life. I wake up with a clear mind. Throw in some exercise, and I have started to naturally cut back on my caffeine habit, something I have used heavily for ten years. I just wake up and no longer feel like I need three cups of coffee.

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post #4

Anecdotal, but I recently started a no-sugar diet just to see what would happen, and I saw an immediate improvement in my mood. I wake up feeling excited about my day instead of groggy. I also get less tired in the evenings after work. It's not perfect, but there's a clear difference. I'm not going back. Also, it made me realize how much sugar/HFCS/etc. is in everything. I have a feeling the next few decades of resea…

> Also, it made me realize how much sugar/HFCS/etc. is in everything. Incredibly, they even add sugar to many brands of salt.

I doubt the amount of dextrose (anti-caking agent) you consume with table salt could ever be nutritionally significant. Have you seen other sugars added to salt? I never have.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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Adding another datapoint, I went Keto, no carbs/no sugar, grass fed meat and vegetables, eggs, some dairy. I have never felt better in my whole life. I wake up with a clear mind. Throw in some exercise, and I have started to naturally cut back on my caffeine habit, something I have used heavily for ten years. I just wake up and no longer feel like I need three cups of coffee.

did you notice improvements at non-Keto low carb? Did you have to strictly be in Ketosis and under the ~50g limit to get the benefits? Curious about your anecdotal experience with Keto

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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post #15

My first question is then has anyone demonstrated that type II diabetics tend to be less depressed than the typical person?

To prove that type II diabetics tend to be less (or more) depressed, isn't that such a question to be studied on patients who do not take any medication?

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you can't cut out sugar from your diet entirely (which is really hard given how much added sugar there is in anything that hasn't been pulled directly out of the ground), giving up sugary drinks and candy will make a big difference, as they're the biggest offenders. Even if you switch from a sugary drink to the zero-calorie version of that drink, you'll be doing yourself a favor in the long run; the jury's ou…

I would try to avoid taking I too much sweetener either. I am on a low sugar diet and whenever I eat a lot of stuff with sweetener I gain weight. I think the body starts acting on the sweetness signals it gets but because there is no actual sugar to process, things get out of whack.

Yes, I don't want to suggest that artificial sweetener is harmless, only that (as far as we can currently tell) it appears to be less harmful.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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...in mice. Edit: not to say I don't believe the effect might be present in humans but the significance of this study should not be overrated.

The observed effect is caused by changes to gut microbiota composition. While there are differences in our flora compared to mice, the reactions happening at that scale should be the same. Whether those changes to human gut would cause these symptoms may be up for debate, but that does not make this irrelevant or useless in any way.

Any diet change induces changes in gut microbiota. Eating tomatoes? Less Mucispirillum in rodents. Eating potato starch? More Rikenellaceae. Eating chicken? More Lactobacillus.

It's result of simple natural selection - species better at digesting your food will reproduce faster.

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you can't cut out sugar from your diet entirely (which is really hard given how much added sugar there is in anything that hasn't been pulled directly out of the ground), giving up sugary drinks and candy will make a big difference, as they're the biggest offenders. Even if you switch from a sugary drink to the zero-calorie version of that drink, you'll be doing yourself a favor in the long run; the jury's ou…

zero-calorie versions sounds like a bandaid, just get on non sweet drinks entirely. Saying this as a water drinker.

The amount of water that goes into creating soda is ridiculous, too.

"[it takes] as much as 132 gallons of water to make a 2-liter bottle of soda" https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123483638138996305

If you do the math, a 2-liter bottle of soda = up to 250, 2-liter bottles of water

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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post #4

Anecdotal, but I recently started a no-sugar diet just to see what would happen, and I saw an immediate improvement in my mood. I wake up feeling excited about my day instead of groggy. I also get less tired in the evenings after work. It's not perfect, but there's a clear difference. I'm not going back. Also, it made me realize how much sugar/HFCS/etc. is in everything. I have a feeling the next few decades of resea…

I'm the opposite. Normally, I never have simple carbs. I'm also usually tired throughout the day, but then I started having sugary stuff, which suddenly energized me again. I've been having a candy bar every day, and I haven't felt day-tired in weeks.

Everyone is different, some people are good at processing sugar , others not so much. If I eat too much sugar i will get a crash in short order

Re: High Fructose Corn Syrup-Moderate Fat Diet Potentiates Anxio-Depressive Behavior

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post #10
post #4

Anecdotal, but I recently started a no-sugar diet just to see what would happen, and I saw an immediate improvement in my mood. I wake up feeling excited about my day instead of groggy. I also get less tired in the evenings after work. It's not perfect, but there's a clear difference. I'm not going back. Also, it made me realize how much sugar/HFCS/etc. is in everything. I have a feeling the next few decades of resea…

Even if you can't cut out sugar from your diet entirely (which is really hard given how much added sugar there is in anything that hasn't been pulled directly out of the ground), giving up sugary drinks and candy will make a big difference, as they're the biggest offenders. Even if you switch from a sugary drink to the zero-calorie version of that drink, you'll be doing yourself a favor in the long run; the jury's ou…

> Even if you switch from a sugary drink to the zero-calorie version of that drink, you'll be doing yourself a favor in the long run; the jury's out on how bad aspartame is for you, but we know very well how bad these quantities of sugar are for you.

this statement is logically incorrect - if the 'jury is out' on aspertame, when it 'reconvenes' it could discover that it is worse for you than HFCS, and so no, in fact, the prophylactic switching that you speak of would in fact be detrimental.

Anecdotally, I feel much worse on 0cal/diet beverages than HFCS equivalent - the 0cal/diet ones seem much more likely to trigger headaches/inflammation in me, though it could be that I don't "think" i need as much food so I actually let the diet drink facillitate bad nutrition which in turn triggers these things ... probably the real 'safe bet' is to switch away from both regular and diet soft drinks, since HFCS also is not good

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