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Re: HN post inspired me to quit my job and found my own startup

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I'm not going to hire a copywriter who confuses "kahunas" with "cojones."

I'm glad you pointed that out! Where I'm from, we use "kahunas," not "cojones." But I'm glad to know that there's a regional difference.

Also, I don't think you should trust a copywriter who uses either of those words in your copy (regardless of where they're from).

Re: HN post inspired me to quit my job and found my own startup

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I'm not going to hire a copywriter who confuses "kahunas" with "cojones."

Or who has missing punctuation, or poor formatting, or bad grammar, or incorrect use of idioms, or, or, or... Sure, "everyone's a critic" (and sorry to join the crowd), but if you're going to promote yourself as a professional copywriter you should at least have a grasp of the basics.

I've got to say it's a good thing that I'm not hired to write blog posts. Thanks for sharing your opinion! Every critique helps to build valuable skills.

Re: HN post inspired me to quit my job and found my own startup

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or who has missing punctuation, or poor formatting, or bad grammar, or incorrect use of idioms, or, or, or... Sure, "everyone's a critic" (and sorry to join the crowd), but if you're going to promote yourself as a professional copywriter you should at least have a grasp of the basics.

In fairness her focus is much more on message and content than on correctness. I do agree that she would benefit from a copy editor but the main challenge a lot of business owners have is with what to say, rather than saying it with perfect grammar. So I imagine she may well be able to help people who struggle with that. Which in my experience is almost everyone in business.

You're right on the money. Although I'm definitely adding a copy editor to my list of things to invest in ASAP.

Re: HN post inspired me to quit my job and found my own startup

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness her focus is much more on message and content than on correctness. I do agree that she would benefit from a copy editor but the main challenge a lot of business owners have is with what to say, rather than saying it with perfect grammar. So I imagine she may well be able to help people who struggle with that. Which in my experience is almost everyone in business.

Grammar and spelling are table stakes for copywriting. A copywriter shouldn't sell themselves on it, or mention it, because it is an assumption that it will be good. When a copy writer is offering a service with bad copy, it casts into doubt their ability to write or edit copy. I ran this sentence from the article through google docs: >There was overwhelm of not knowing how to start a website, what pages to include,…

Hey, I get it. I totally understand if writing "there was an overwhelming feeling" seems more correct to you. But my goal is to relay a message as I hear it from the target audience which explains a lot of those strategic choices I made in the blog post (trust me, me and Google spell check were good friends throughout the writing process). But I try not to use Google spell check like it's a God. More like a helpful angel on my shoulder.

Re: HN post inspired me to quit my job and found my own startup

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Best of luck to you. I did this in Aug 2018. My app was already generating a few thousand a month (net revenue), and I still had an incredibly hard time. My biggest failure was 1) not finding a cofounder and 2) not targeting a big enough market.

Thanks so much! I'll keep those in mind as I move forward. Did things ever pick up for you? Or did you move on to other projects?

Re: HN post inspired me to quit my job and found my own startup

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Good luck. I had a similar experience, except that it wasn't my choice. I was given no recourse, but to strike out on my own. Since I am fortunate enough to have the means (I believe that it used to be called "f**k you money," but I always thought that I was the one that got to to say "f**K you," not the potential employers), I was able to do it. In the aggregate, it has turned out better than I ever could have imagi…

Hey, when life gives you lemons...

Glad to hear that things worked out alright. I've never heard someone use "f*k you money" before. I'm definitely hanging on to that one.

Re: HN post inspired me to quit my job and found my own startup

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Good job, I've noticed that copywriting is a major pita when designing a platform with no good solutions atm. Unfortunately, I don't see how your service solves it (please correct me if I don't understand it). After purchasing your service I'll get feedback on my existing copywriting and a copy for one of my sections (how big?). This doesn't solve my problem, because now I still need to write the copy for the rest of…

I'm glad you mentioned that. Might be necessary for me to optimize this post.

Basically, one of the huge problems I heard over the years was that founders wanted to write their own website copy. Or at least, their budgets necessitated that they did. However, once they did that, they weren't sure what was and wasn't working on their websites as far as copy goes. So they came to me for advice. I'd say about 75% of the people I talked to were in this bucket.

The other 25% wanted to hire a copywriter to actually write it. For the majority of founders, that option was not only cost prohibitive but also required more work in their eyes than writing the actual copy.

It sounds to me like what you're in that 25%. Would you agree with that assessment?

In regards to the custom copy, it would depend on which sections of your website needed the most TLC. But as a ballpark, you're looking at half a page.

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