Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21 • Hacker News Board

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by yatsyk » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 4:18 PM UTC

I'd be very interested to look at live editing of experienced vim hacker to steal some tips.

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by barrkel » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 4:18 PM UTC

suninwinter wrote: post #18

It looks like his changes appear in the game window without rebuilding the program. Is that what everyone else is seeing? Is this a technique I should know about?

Hotswap bug fixing is the Java term for it. .NET calls it Edit and Continue. Much the same thing has existed in Smalltalk and Lisp etc. for much longer.

It's particularly well suited for things like a game loop or a server, because it works best (or rather usually, only) when the code you're editing is not on the stack.

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by drtse4 » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 4:27 PM UTC

suninwinter wrote: post #18

It looks like his changes appear in the game window without rebuilding the program. Is that what everyone else is seeing? Is this a technique I should know about?

He is using JRebel i guess.

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by ForrestN » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 4:32 PM UTC

Does anyone know what he's making? I just tuned in 30 minutes ago, and he's been focused on getting his RenderWall function to work. Has he said what his eventual plan is at all?

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by Simucal » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:01 PM UTC

fredoliveira wrote: post #14

lee wrote: post #4

This is amazing. Currently there are 12000 people tuned to watch a man program live. Who would have thought that would ever happen... live streaming programming.

I have lost count of the number of things I learned. Particularly new ways of doing things.

Can you list some of them?

The concept of editing the game loop code while the game is still running is new to me (even though apparently this has been around for a long time).

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by Simucal » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:02 PM UTC

ForrestN wrote: post #24

Does anyone know what he's making? I just tuned in 30 minutes ago, and he's been focused on getting his RenderWall function to work. Has he said what his eventual plan is at all?

He just said, "The funny with my Lundum Dare entries is I never have any idea what game I'm making while I'm doing it."

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by kayoone » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:14 PM UTC

Its amazing to watch him build this. I also find it inspiring that he is still doing this because he simply loves building games despite the fact he has made millions with minecraft already.

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by BasDirks » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:16 PM UTC

shabda wrote: post #17

If you like this kind of things, Peepcode's Play by Play screencasts are good too.

I do like the PbP's from Peepcode, but Notch is something else.

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by Madsn » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:29 PM UTC

"Flip the 'y'.. (Wh)y not, hehe" - Nice programming pun :)

Re: Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21

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Post by smhinsey » Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 5:30 PM UTC

He just stopped the stream due to the cost. I'd be very curious to know what the actual numbers were.