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The Dollar-Store Economy: How the lowest end of American retail does business

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Re: The Dollar-Store Economy: How the lowest end of American retail does business

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Wow, is it the fact checking department's day off? I mean they actually interviewed the president of Dollar General and yet they haven't figured out the fact that Dollar General is not a dollar store. Guess what Family Dollar is not a Dollar Store either.

I'm not sure there are any true "dollar stores" any more in the sense that "Everything is one dollar." However the stores evolved from the original gimmick are still called dollar stores even if the strict definition no longer applies.

The "99 cent only" stores are still true to their word (nothing is over a dollar), but they recently had to raise their prices to 99.99 cents, heh.

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People saving money are using coupons (I mean old fashioned coupons in newspapers like P&G Brandsaver). For example, lets say you need bleach, and you have a coupon for 50 cents off. You'll wait til Target/Walmart has bleach on sale for 50% off, then purchase it with the coupon as well. You can sometimes get bottles of bleach for 25c or sometimes free. My family does this, so don't tell me it doesn't work :) Most of…

I remember a study estimating that the time value of clipping and using coupons averages out to about $7/hour. I don't remember the methodology and can't find the study (anyone else seen it?), but, even if you could be substantially above average and "make," say, $10 / hour clipping coupons, I still doubt it would be worth it for many people.

The other danger: you see a coupon that excites a desire for a product you didn't previously think you wanted. Unless you have unusually tight control over yourself, you'll find your buying more stuff (http://paulgraham.com/stuff.html) you don't actually need.

Reading Kevin Kelly's quasi-blog Cool Tools: http://www.kk.org/cooltools/ also offers this danger, but it also very occasionally makes me find something I've always wanted and didn't realize, like the Best Book Stand Jasmine: http://jseliger.com/2010/09/04/highly-recommended-the-best-b... , which I use almost every day.

Re: The Dollar-Store Economy: How the lowest end of American retail does business

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100 Yen shops are everywhere in Japan. I was amazed at how much I began to depend on them. Craft supplies and costumes for Halloween, snacks, towels, etc. If I used it every day, and it wasn't clothes or food, I probably bought it at a 100 Yen shop.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2077.html

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure there are any true "dollar stores" any more in the sense that "Everything is one dollar." However the stores evolved from the original gimmick are still called dollar stores even if the strict definition no longer applies.

I remember when you'd still hear people refer to dime stores, though I'm pretty sure the term was obsolete well before my time.

There's a "five and ten" store in Palo Alto, but it's $5 and $10.

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All very interesting, but it sounds like one thing this area is missing are the apps and social media links that might help grow the 22% part of their audience into an even larger share. I presume there are folks on here who could help fix that :-)

Sorry, but why the Downvotes? I'm quite serious that some apps that would make it easier for you to find Dollar Stores near you - or better yet that would show you who has what in stock would help the adoption of shopping there by folks who have grown accustomed to those kinds of things where they have been shopping. I could also imagine an app that would let you scan in what is on sale there, and link you to articles like the one mentioned in the opener to make the "alien" lamp.

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About 10 years ago I worked the register at a Dollar Tree store for exactly 1 six hour shift. I almost didn't go back to pick up my paycheck it was so bad. The customer base of these stores is very very sad. For every artist that's browsing for materials and inspiration there are a thousand little old ladies buying shit they don't need with money they don't have.

And for the most part it is shit. The food is too suspect to feed to my pets, and the consumer goods are notional facsimiles of real products. Like the Wow brand ShamWow, or the dish rag that won't make it through a wash cycle, or the Nerf gun knockoff that doesn't have any moving parts. None of this stuff is worth lifting off the shelf, let alone paying a dollar for.

I spent 6 hours of punching 1 dollar, 1 dollar, 1 dollar pondering over the people bringing this garbage to my counter, demanding indestructible plastic cups be wrapped in a dollars worth of tissue paper, repeatedly asking how much products cost as if they had not yet noticed they were in a dollar store. "How did this 70 year old woman decide today was the day she needed 20 slightly deformed acrylic cups? Has she been cupless all this time? And why return 2 hours later to get a dozen fake flowers?" I think I attributed that hollow feeling in the pit of my stomach to some concern that all these fools were being had, or perhaps that I was contributing to their hoarding illness.

The dread I felt was spot on, but the attribution was faulty. These people are not fools. The products they buy aren't fake but symbolic. They brought these offerings to my altar so that I might perform the "glassware" wrapping and price-check rituals of consumerism. I thought I was taking a job working a register, when I was really stepping behind the altar to become the liturgist of the Enfield congregation of the Dollar Tree denomination of Consumerism.

I have never been much of a devotee of the Consumer way of life, and the Dollar Tree denomination is the snake handling denomination of Consumerism. The products in a Walmart or Target could conceivably fill someone's need or desire. I doubt that much of what they sell is sold to fulfill practical wants and needs--their congregation of faithful parishioners who come to worship and trample every Black Friday for the year's must have electronic gadget attend regularly on a more distributed schedule throughout the year as well. But there is still a semblance of shame in the Walmart and Target version of idol worship. Your car floormats are a little dusty and the ones with the really rad flames on them just happen to be on sale! Outside the dollar store we're not quite ready to honestly confront what we believe in, who we are. At 16, with the quickly fading inoculation of an upbringing in the values of Presbyterianism, hard work, and education I was certainly not ready to deal with what I found in that Dollar Tree.

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About 10 years ago I worked the register at a Dollar Tree store for exactly 1 six hour shift. I almost didn't go back to pick up my paycheck it was so bad. The customer base of these stores is very very sad. For every artist that's browsing for materials and inspiration there are a thousand little old ladies buying shit they don't need with money they don't have. And for the most part it is shit. The food is too susp…

"How did this 70 year old woman decide today was the day she needed 20 slightly deformed acrylic cups? Has she been cupless all this time? And why return 2 hours later to get a dozen fake flowers?" I think I attributed that hollow feeling in the pit of my stomach to some concern that all these fools were being had, or perhaps that I was contributing to their hoarding illness.

Maybe she was just lonely or bored and needed errands to run. I volunteered to teach some basic computer stuff 1-on-1 at a 50+ organization and frequently the people there didn't care about actually picking up the skills, they just wanted someone to talk to.

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All very interesting, but it sounds like one thing this area is missing are the apps and social media links that might help grow the 22% part of their audience into an even larger share. I presume there are folks on here who could help fix that :-)

Sorry, but why the Downvotes? I'm quite serious that some apps that would make it easier for you to find Dollar Stores near you - or better yet that would show you who has what in stock would help the adoption of shopping there by folks who have grown accustomed to those kinds of things where they have been shopping. I could also imagine an app that would let you scan in what is on sale there, and link you to article…

I am pretty sure there are apps out there that do this already. Also, dollar store goers are probably not the biggest users of apps or smartphones. Generally.

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100 Yen shops are everywhere in Japan. I was amazed at how much I began to depend on them. Craft supplies and costumes for Halloween, snacks, towels, etc. If I used it every day, and it wasn't clothes or food, I probably bought it at a 100 Yen shop. http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2077.html

IIRC, 100en stores are a lot more legit than their American counterparts. Same thing with convenience stores. In America, even the poor are reluctant to visit dollar stores because the wares are so sketchy. But all my Japanese friends were avid devotees of the 100en store and combini.

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All very interesting, but it sounds like one thing this area is missing are the apps and social media links that might help grow the 22% part of their audience into an even larger share. I presume there are folks on here who could help fix that :-)

Sorry, but why the Downvotes? I'm quite serious that some apps that would make it easier for you to find Dollar Stores near you - or better yet that would show you who has what in stock would help the adoption of shopping there by folks who have grown accustomed to those kinds of things where they have been shopping. I could also imagine an app that would let you scan in what is on sale there, and link you to article…

Your comment is so odd that I think people are reading it as facetious. People in the target market for a dollar store will generally have an easier time finding a dollar store than finding or using an app related to dollar stores. It's a bit like suggesting that Silicon Valley startups should buy ads in community newspapers. The interests just don't align.
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