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This is what ultimately killed Second Life. In the early days it was being used by businesses, for meetings etc. Then all the people with kinks moved in and now no one takes it seriously.
Shame really.
OpenSimWorld, Directory of the OpenSimulator Metaverse
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are ideas that have existed in pop culture for decades, and had a bunch of attempts at making it happen. It was surreal watching Zuckerberg talk about Horizon Home because it felt like he was projecting a Big Tech veneer over a hobbyists domain. People have been messing with this stuff in VR and earlier with virtual 3d desktops since the 90s, and possibly earlier that I am just not aware of. It felt a bit like…
re: earlier than the 90s, I grabbed this link [0] from another metaverse thread, showing some 80s VR research (Judging by hardware, Sun-3, a macintosh, mentioned 20Mhz 386, otherwise no dates), I wish there was more info of who the people are, I would love to read their papers. At a Q&A near the middle, a researcher suggests allowing anyone to create content is a threat to the old publishers, pretty prescient but als…
There was of course Habitat, and later World's Away. I came across this 1996 wired article about the "metaworlds" of the time:
https://www.wired.com/1996/06/avatar-2/
There's also the classic:
"The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat"
Chip Morningstar and F. Randall Farmer Electric Communities
> This paper was presented at The First Annual International Conference on Cyberspace in 1990. It was published in Cyberspace: First Steps, Michael Benedikt (ed.), 1990, MIT Press, Cambridge, Mass.
http://web.stanford.edu/class/history34q/readings/Virtual_Wo...
Ed: see also this comment for habitat revived: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29055742
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#24This is not the center of Open Simulator activity. This is just someone's directory of it. With ads. Just as Yahoo was "the directory of the Internet". With ads. I've used Open Simulator and never heard of this site before. A more useful site is Hypergrid Business.[1] This discusses the various players in the Open Simulator world and what they're doing. There already is a distributed, federated metaverse with no sing…
Reading the "What is OpenSim" page on your link and... it sounds like the "Metaverse" already exists. The term is being sold like it's a new thing that doesn't exist yet, but it seems like Facebook is behind the times. OpenSim seems pretty cool honestly. Similar draw as Second Life, in my mind. Though I downloaded Second Life and only played it a couple times.
It really feels to me like Facebook is basically squating the metaverse name, that existed for quite some time as a concept. And I don't like that at all - now everyone working on this stuff essentially has to start calling it with a different name or else they will look like they are somehow connected to Facebooks corrupted attempt at building a metaverse.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading the "What is OpenSim" page on your link and... it sounds like the "Metaverse" already exists. The term is being sold like it's a new thing that doesn't exist yet, but it seems like Facebook is behind the times. OpenSim seems pretty cool honestly. Similar draw as Second Life, in my mind. Though I downloaded Second Life and only played it a couple times.
It really feels to me like Facebook is basically squating the metaverse name, that existed for quite some time as a concept. And I don't like that at all - now everyone working on this stuff essentially has to start calling it with a different name or else they will look like they are somehow connected to Facebooks corrupted attempt at building a metaverse.
I think the opposite: everyone should keep using their existing metaverse name, to prevent Facebook from getting a viable trademark on it.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It really feels to me like Facebook is basically squating the metaverse name, that existed for quite some time as a concept. And I don't like that at all - now everyone working on this stuff essentially has to start calling it with a different name or else they will look like they are somehow connected to Facebooks corrupted attempt at building a metaverse.
I think the opposite: everyone should keep using their existing metaverse name, to prevent Facebook from getting a viable trademark on it.
Good point, that could work as well! Especially as there is IMHO a good chance of Facebooks attempt to fail spectacularly (especially given a lot of people already involved in this area will not touch Facebooks stuff with ten foot pole), possibly soiling the name for quite a while if they manage to keep it.
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#27>sex slave nudebeach Umm no
This is what ultimately killed Second Life. In the early days it was being used by businesses, for meetings etc. Then all the people with kinks moved in and now no one takes it seriously. Shame really.
> This is what ultimately killed Second Life. In the early days it was being used by businesses, for meetings etc. Then all the people with kinks moved in and now no one takes it seriously.
You got your order of events reversed.
In the early days of SL (2003-2007) it was mostly chaos: kinky content, ponzi-schemes, gambling and scams.
It is in this chaos that SL boomed, but sometime close to its peak (2006-2007) the management realized this isn't sustainable (for both legal and business reasons). So, they started to moderate user-content in order to make it more attractive to mainstream-consumers as well as businesses.
And we've seen how that went. Very few are interested.
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#28This is not the center of Open Simulator activity. This is just someone's directory of it. With ads. Just as Yahoo was "the directory of the Internet". With ads. I've used Open Simulator and never heard of this site before. A more useful site is Hypergrid Business.[1] This discusses the various players in the Open Simulator world and what they're doing. There already is a distributed, federated metaverse with no sing…
Reading the "What is OpenSim" page on your link and... it sounds like the "Metaverse" already exists. The term is being sold like it's a new thing that doesn't exist yet, but it seems like Facebook is behind the times. OpenSim seems pretty cool honestly. Similar draw as Second Life, in my mind. Though I downloaded Second Life and only played it a couple times.
That's right. It's like those open-source alternatives to Facebook, such as Mastodon and Diaspora. They work fine, and they have tiny user communities.
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#29I'm getting pretty fed-up of finding this word in half the headlines I read.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is what ultimately killed Second Life. In the early days it was being used by businesses, for meetings etc. Then all the people with kinks moved in and now no one takes it seriously. Shame really.
> This is what ultimately killed Second Life. In the early days it was being used by businesses, for meetings etc. Then all the people with kinks moved in and now no one takes it seriously. You got your order of events reversed. In the early days of SL (2003-2007) it was mostly chaos: kinky content, ponzi-schemes, gambling and scams. It is in this chaos that SL boomed, but sometime close to its peak (2006-2007) the m…
Ah fair enough. I just remember those early days they were trying to push the Linden dollar as a way for business to monitize the virtual spaces and objects. It seems to have had a bumpy history.