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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#21

Super exciting! We use the previous gen at my company to run octoprint software for our 3d printer farm and they do tend to run quite slow. This should be a nice needed upgrade. In general the RPI Zero series is really great value for a tiny linux machine.

According to the OctoPrint Twitter handle, it runs great as an OctoPrint server[1]!

[1] https://twitter.com/OctoPrint3D/status/1453608862188249095

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#22
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I've been testing one for a couple weeks, and a quick rundown on it: it has a quad-core A53, same CPU/SoC core as the Pi 3, with 512 MB of RAM. This means it can run 64-bit Pi OS, but it is memory-limited and even some of the benchmarks I ran needed extra swap space to complete. But for anything that does run in the 512 MB of LPDDR2 RAM, it is at least twice as fast as the Zero/Zero W, and sometimes 3-8x faster, depe…

Definitely seems a bit disappointing that 5-6 years after the original Pi Zero there's still only 512MB of RAM. Regardless, I'm excited to see what new projects will become feasible with the extra CPU performance. I just finished watching your YouTube video, so thanks for providing all of this insight. A new Pi Zero will certainly make small handheld emulators a lot more promising...

I don't feel like I needed more memory or the cpu boost in the pi zero 2. I'd rather they stayed at the old $5 price, decreased power consumption, and added some analog and realtime capabilities. I had thought that was the idea of the RP2440 chip used in the pi pico. It would be great if they added that chip to a pi zero board (maybe in the same SOC as the main processor) so they would have some analog inputs and a somewhat realtime coprocessor.

I've done some fairly fancy Python app development under Linux on a 300mhz embedded ARMv6 board with 64MB of ram, so for lots of things the Pi Zero is already overkill. But an actual OS (i.e. Linux) does make programming a lot easier than an MCU board with an RTOS. So how about a "Pi -1" (minus one) with 1/4 of the resources and power consumption of the Pi 0?

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#23

I've been running one of these for a few months too and was excited when I saw an ARMv7 CPU. In the open source and container world, many projects have stopped supporting the Zero and RPi1 due to its lack of RAM and slow CPU speed. Even running "go build" can take multiple seconds on a simple program. Starting Node.js was also fairly slow. The RPi zero shines for Python scripts that access hardware - for sensors and…

512GB should be enough for most people ;-)

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#24
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have power consumption numbers? Compared to the Pi Zero W, hom much more does it consumes?

Yes; check my blog post [1] or latest YouTube video [2] for details, but the tldr is 0.4W (80 mA) idle minimum for Zero W, 0.6W (100 mA) idle minimum for Zero W 2. Zero W goes up to 160 mA at load, while Zero W 2 gets up to 400-500 mA due to the three extra CPU cores. [1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/look-inside-raspberry... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKS2ElWQizA

That's a big jump. Is there a way of getting Linux to disable a couple of cores?

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#25

I've been testing one for a couple weeks, and a quick rundown on it: it has a quad-core A53, same CPU/SoC core as the Pi 3, with 512 MB of RAM. This means it can run 64-bit Pi OS, but it is memory-limited and even some of the benchmarks I ran needed extra swap space to complete. But for anything that does run in the 512 MB of LPDDR2 RAM, it is at least twice as fast as the Zero/Zero W, and sometimes 3-8x faster, depe…

Also adding on from another thread that got demoted from the front page: I tried usb boot on this board (since it has the same SoC as the Pi 3 B, which supports USB boot), but alas, that didn't seem to work.

The Pi Zero 2 W doesn't seem to do anything at all (no LED activity, no HDMI output) unless there's a microSD card inserted with a valid bootloader and DTB that supports it.

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#26
post #8

I've been testing one for a couple weeks, and a quick rundown on it: it has a quad-core A53, same CPU/SoC core as the Pi 3, with 512 MB of RAM. This means it can run 64-bit Pi OS, but it is memory-limited and even some of the benchmarks I ran needed extra swap space to complete. But for anything that does run in the 512 MB of LPDDR2 RAM, it is at least twice as fast as the Zero/Zero W, and sometimes 3-8x faster, depe…

64bit is great news (if only because I can target it with the same binaries), but only 512MB of RAM and no EMMC is disappointing, regardless of power budget constraints. I have been using 3As because of the reduced size (and the full sized HDMI port, which comes in handy), so I hope those get updated to a 4-grade chipset —- I feel that there is a gap between the Compute Module and the A that needs filling.

next we need a RPi4A with 2GB of ram, the full size HDMI, usb C and updated silicon

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#27

I've been testing one for a couple weeks, and a quick rundown on it: it has a quad-core A53, same CPU/SoC core as the Pi 3, with 512 MB of RAM. This means it can run 64-bit Pi OS, but it is memory-limited and even some of the benchmarks I ran needed extra swap space to complete. But for anything that does run in the 512 MB of LPDDR2 RAM, it is at least twice as fast as the Zero/Zero W, and sometimes 3-8x faster, depe…

Is it 28nm or 40nm?

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#28
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have power consumption numbers? Compared to the Pi Zero W, hom much more does it consumes?

Yes; check my blog post [1] or latest YouTube video [2] for details, but the tldr is 0.4W (80 mA) idle minimum for Zero W, 0.6W (100 mA) idle minimum for Zero W 2. Zero W goes up to 160 mA at load, while Zero W 2 gets up to 400-500 mA due to the three extra CPU cores. [1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/look-inside-raspberry... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKS2ElWQizA

2W! Did you measure Gflops? I wish you could disable cores dynamically...

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#29

I've been running one of these for a few months too and was excited when I saw an ARMv7 CPU. In the open source and container world, many projects have stopped supporting the Zero and RPi1 due to its lack of RAM and slow CPU speed. Even running "go build" can take multiple seconds on a simple program. Starting Node.js was also fairly slow. The RPi zero shines for Python scripts that access hardware - for sensors and…

512GB should be enough for most people ;-)

MB

Re: Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes; check my blog post [1] or latest YouTube video [2] for details, but the tldr is 0.4W (80 mA) idle minimum for Zero W, 0.6W (100 mA) idle minimum for Zero W 2. Zero W goes up to 160 mA at load, while Zero W 2 gets up to 400-500 mA due to the three extra CPU cores. [1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/look-inside-raspberry... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKS2ElWQizA

That's a big jump. Is there a way of getting Linux to disable a couple of cores?

On x86 there was an option, i think nr_cpus or something like that some time ago. There was also SMP_KERNEL kernel config option.
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