Live data from Hacker News

EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

ansa.it

21–30 of 87 posts

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#21
post #3

In the original article, the picture shows exactly how the internet would react : https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/tecnologia/software_app/202... By generating Adolf Hitlers GreenPass ..

>By generating Adolf Hitlers GreenPass .. TBH that is pretty hitlarious :) Though it could get you in trouble in Austria and Germany.

I think that the point – to show that the certificate system is about total nazi style control.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#22

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

"Super easy travel" is not how I would describe an application designed to ease the limiting of movement of people based on medical status.

>limit the movement of people based on medical status

That's literally the idea behind fighting contagious diseases, widely used to defend islands and castles before the vaccines. People used to wait in ships for weeks before they can embark. We used to have castles insulated to keep an outbreak out of it's population. Through the history of humanity, countless people were lost to contagious diseases.

The Green Pass thingy is essentially an enabler to open up the castle and let sailors embark without waiting for weeks to see if if they will get sick or not. It's a management tool to relieve the hardships of contagious diseases fighting methods.

So let's not confuse the causality here.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#23

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

So... from just driving across the border, it's got "super easy", by having to stop at every border crossing, "papers please", and "medical papers please"? I've traveled through the balkan in the 90s, and it was easier then, than now. And even during the war times, the travel was more consistent, and I didn't have to check the border crossing rules every day, because they didn't change that often.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#24

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

I swallowed a Mmmemberberry, and this came back to me :

"I was 20 years old, before the USofA Congress voted for the Patriot Act. I was about to travel a short 1h hop by plane, and I walked directly to the gate from the parking, right in front of the plane. I presented my password and ticket to the attendant, and boarded."

That's it. Nothing more to this memory.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#25
post #10

The keys are revocable and replaceable (and it was probably a member state set of keys), so it shouldn't be too big of a deal

Depends on how many certificates become invalid now.

Yeah, if half-smart, certificates should expire relatively frequently to contain damage in such a scenario.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#26
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Super easy travel" is not how I would describe an application designed to ease the limiting of movement of people based on medical status.

>limit the movement of people based on medical status That's literally the idea behind fighting contagious diseases, widely used to defend islands and castles before the vaccines. People used to wait in ships for weeks before they can embark. We used to have castles insulated to keep an outbreak out of it's population. Through the history of humanity, countless people were lost to contagious diseases. The Green Pass…

When are the participating countries going to get rid of it? When is the pandemic over?

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#27

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

"Super easy travel" is not how I would describe an application designed to ease the limiting of movement of people based on medical status.

It doesn't limit travel - those decisions are still made by each country individually with some guidance from the EU. The EU does not have control over what COVID entry requirements a country sets, beyond making recommendations.

All the document and its regulation do is say, "if you impose entry requirements based on vaccination / testing / recovery, you must accept at least these types of vaccines / tests / recovery specifics and you must accept this document (if genuine) as proving what it says, and all of this on a non-discriminatory basis regardless of nationality or place of occurrence." The document itself is never made mandatory by the EU and alternative proofs for entry to a member state must be accepted.

(Why do I say "document" instead of app? From the user perspective, you can print it on paper, present it as a PDF, or use one of many interoperable national apps among other ways to present it.)

So, the restrictions you're unhappy about are imposed by countries in reaction to COVID; the document we're discussing just sets some minimum allowed level of ease in satisfying national entry requirements.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#28
post #17

let's index millions of people's personal and health data, including their exposure to dna-altering drugs that might have health repercussions for years afterwards... and secure them so well than some kid can create and sign a record for a mister adolf Hitler. what can go wrong?

Where's the DNA altering drug? Sounds cool.

Re: EU Green Pass-generation keys stolen

#29

Technical issues aside, the EU Green pass is a gigantic success. Super easy travel across Europe and all other participating countries.

You think medical surveillance and segregation is a ”gigantic success”? Think again.

I would understand if the treatments actually prevented transmission altogether.

Post reply on HN