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Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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Very offensive comment. Insulting and generalizing people and ideology you don't understand. I am conservative, many issues I find liberals think they have the moral high ground on it's quite the opposite. Note I use these terms loosely and there is a spectrum of political ideologies that differ between people, even between issues.

I would argue that the person who wrote that comment understood it better than anyone on this thread.

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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I'm not familiar with these alternatives, or if it's true they descend into abhorrent extremism. But the problem with mainstream social media platforms prohibiting content is that it fuels the extremism it's trying to combat. I understand it's their right as private companies yada yada yada. But there's an increasingly narrow space within which to have meaningful conversations. And things are getting bad.

Moderates from both sides are being shunned for not following dogma. It's nice to see intellectuals begin to carve their own spaces in podcasts and substack. We need people willing to engage in thoughtful, nuanced and charitable conversation.

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very offensive comment. Insulting and generalizing people and ideology you don't understand. I am conservative, many issues I find liberals think they have the moral high ground on it's quite the opposite. Note I use these terms loosely and there is a spectrum of political ideologies that differ between people, even between issues.

I would argue that the person who wrote that comment understood it better than anyone on this thread.

Then argue it. Why?

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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It's hard for me to imagine a less surprising result. And yet it's going to happen again, and again, and again. Voat, Parler, whatever.

Gab, Parler and 4chan are still up, just so you know. The forever mission to stop them is still incomplete. It is only going to get harder as they keep on being resilient and censorship resistant. Done by none other than the ones who love chasing so-called 'nazis' for a living.

I mean, sure, yeah, Stormfront is still up too.

I don't think "remaining up" is the totality of their goals. I think what the writer of the post is getting at is that pursuing this direction leads to no outcomes better than a marginally sustained existence.

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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Very offensive comment. Insulting and generalizing people and ideology you don't understand. I am conservative, many issues I find liberals think they have the moral high ground on it's quite the opposite. Note I use these terms loosely and there is a spectrum of political ideologies that differ between people, even between issues.

You called them conservatives, not me.

I posted an excerpt from the linked post. That's what a Ruqqus admin said about the people on his site. I don't think they're conservatives at all, they're just very sad angry people.

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very offensive comment. Insulting and generalizing people and ideology you don't understand. I am conservative, many issues I find liberals think they have the moral high ground on it's quite the opposite. Note I use these terms loosely and there is a spectrum of political ideologies that differ between people, even between issues.

You called them conservatives, not me. I posted an excerpt from the linked post. That's what a Ruqqus admin said about the people on his site. I don't think they're conservatives at all, they're just very sad angry people.

I thought you were quoting because you agreed with it, you didn't explain why.

It's an offensive statement, no matter who said it, it's a sweeping generalization.

There are plenty of intelligent conservatives, and either way, they want a community.

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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It's hard for me to imagine a less surprising result. And yet it's going to happen again, and again, and again. Voat, Parler, whatever.

Agree to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28995247

The shutdowns will happen so long as 1) there's not enough market share for the competing product (presumably from the network effects) and 2) there's market suppression from the current players. In other words: as long as there is a competing first-landing player and that player is actively working against any newcomers will there be a change? Probably not. To put this into a historical context: Standard Oil was notoriously gobbling up or destroying small players as a very successful attempt to own the market. This is no different.

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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It’s too bad that nobody can find a middle ground between the increasing amount of heavy handed censorship on Reddit and literally all Nazis.

I thought /r/gendercritical and /r/nonewnormal both fit into the bucket of “I can see why this is controversial, but it’s more dissent from mainstream opinion than clearly ban worthy.” Again I’m not espousing views in those subreddits I just didn’t view them as ban worthy.

All sorts of “misinformation” is totally fine as long as it goes with the group think such as the Rolling Stone story on Oklahoma covid units being overrun that turned out to be false.

Reddit has unpaid moderators who wield way too much power and blackmail the company into getting their way. Now Reddit has raised money so we can expect even more purges to become as advertiser friendly as possible.

Some sort of app that would connect federated backends would be ideal, Lemmy was on the right path but yet another dead on arrival project due to ideology.

I know we seem to be on a path for increasing centralization but I predict the pendulum swings the opposite way as the user experience on centralized sites keep deteriorating due to pressure to monetize and people get fed up of a few power mods on these sites dictating permissible opinions.

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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Nice demonstration of the Paradox of Tolerance [1]:

"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

This is the naive weakness exploited by every strain of authoritarianism, the idea that if we only object to every form of constraint of expression, we will always be free. Sadly, that is exactly what leads democracies to fall into authoritarian states.

Played out here in a free-speech site falling into an abyss of hatred that no non-idiot would want to support, so it failed for lack of support.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Re: Reddit alternative Ruqqus shutting down

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You called them conservatives, not me. I posted an excerpt from the linked post. That's what a Ruqqus admin said about the people on his site. I don't think they're conservatives at all, they're just very sad angry people.

I thought you were quoting because you agreed with it, you didn't explain why. It's an offensive statement, no matter who said it, it's a sweeping generalization. There are plenty of intelligent conservatives, and either way, they want a community.

Sure but these aren't communities of conservatives, these are communities of bigots... they're not debating fiscal responsibility, they're self-proclaimed nazis

They're not getting kicked off of twitter and facebook for being conservative, they're getting kicked off for being extremely racist

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