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Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by johnday »

minimaxir wrote: post #19

For those who think web-based IDEs are inefficient, I recommend giving VS Code in the browser a try: nowadays it's just as performant as it is on the desktop. Even on the iPad it's just as performant (with 120Hz scrolling!), although as noted in the announcement, the file system limitations make it a bit of a pain to work with for ad hoc coding.

> For those who think web-based IDEs are inefficient, I recommend giving VS Code in the browser a try: nowadays it's just as performant as it is on the desktop.

This doesn't read to me as the acclaim that you think it is. What I'm hearing is that the desktop application is as slow as a web IDE.

No doubt the people at VSCode have put every effort into making the application run well on desktop, but that's not to say that it comes close to "native".

For another point of reference, I'd say that Discord is "as fast in the web browser as it is on desktop", but that's no compliment; the desktop client is extremely laggy, even on an up-to-date Windows PC. [That said, relatively speaking VSCode is leagues ahead of Discord on this front].

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by beebeepka »

> we "pahked it"

It took almost 30 years to finally get comfortable with the way native, mostly British, speakers pronounce R. It still doesn't feel right but I no longer fight.

I can still picture myself yelling my hard Rs at Google translate and it consistently failing to understand me.

Somewhat more on topic: I just realized I've been using nothing but Viscose for 2 years now. Still not as good as WebStorm but it's getting there. It wasn't nearly as good back in 2017.

Not sure I want it to be just a tab in my browser thought. Very cool nonetheless. We've come a long way

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by minimaxir »

johnday wrote: post #21
minimaxir wrote: post #19

For those who think web-based IDEs are inefficient, I recommend giving VS Code in the browser a try: nowadays it's just as performant as it is on the desktop. Even on the iPad it's just as performant (with 120Hz scrolling!), although as noted in the announcement, the file system limitations make it a bit of a pain to work with for ad hoc coding.

> For those who think web-based IDEs are inefficient, I recommend giving VS Code in the browser a try: nowadays it's just as performant as it is on the desktop. This doesn't read to me as the acclaim that you think it is. What I'm hearing is that the desktop application is as slow as a web IDE. No doubt the people at VSCode have put every effort into making the application run well on desktop, but that's not to say t…

FWIW I've used web-based IDEs for certain bespoke tasks and desktop VS Code is still magnitudes ahead of them in speed/performance.

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Post by coldtea »

ARandumGuy wrote: post #4

This seems really cool, and seems like it took a lot of man hours to put together. However, I'm not sure who this is for. Downloading and installing an application is not a particularly big ask for the type of people who use VSCode. The browser version will always be a compromised experience, given the inherent limitations of browser applications. Even if it works 99% of the time, that 1% would add enough friction to…

>However, I'm not sure who this is for. Downloading and installing an application is not a particularly big ask for the type of people who use VSCode

It's like how nerdy types could easily slap together their own Dropbox, with rsync and duct tape (as per the famous comment), but most didn't - plus the world is not just full of types who'd do it. And then MS can start adding all kinds of collaboration tools built in, from pair coding to bug tracking, time tracking and so on.

I can imagine an enterprise giving devs just this + something like local/Cloud VPS/CI/CD environment to work in. Immediately reproducible, no hassle, secure, and so on.

>The browser version will always be a compromised experience, given the inherent limitation

Well, offline VSCode is a glorified browser as well.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by newsbinator »

ARandumGuy wrote: post #4

This seems really cool, and seems like it took a lot of man hours to put together. However, I'm not sure who this is for. Downloading and installing an application is not a particularly big ask for the type of people who use VSCode. The browser version will always be a compromised experience, given the inherent limitations of browser applications. Even if it works 99% of the time, that 1% would add enough friction to…

In Safari:

> Your current browser doesn't support local file system access.

> You can either upload single files or open a remote repository.

Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by [deleted] »

n8cpdx wrote: post #5

Very cool stuff. I remember being at Build 2018 and asking the PM on the Live Share team if they had any plans to bring VS Code to the browser. Maybe do managed environments for labs and companies (what GitHub code spaces now is), would be great for education. Lots of students (especially non-CS nerds, like the physics kids with a CS requirement) find environment setup to be one of the hardest parts. He seemed to thi…

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Re: Vscode.dev

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Post by tiffanyh »

>"Fast forward to today. Now when you go to https://vscode.dev, you'll be presented with a lightweight version of VS Code running fully in the browser."

Does that imply there is functionality missing from the online version of VS Code?

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