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We once upgraded a major research department from csh to tcsh (while also migrating most users to bash). A senior leader complained that when they hit the up arrow, the last command they typed showed up. I explained how to disable readline
I'd be sad to see an educated person refuse interesting new tricks (readline causes no regression or loss right ?)
I am not a freebsd user, been on linux since 1992, but most of the time I read something about freebsd users and it seems like they want to be some older unix, like Solaris or True64 or something.
I expect they want to be FreeBSD. In particular, they are not Linux, and have no need to be Linux, if that's what you're getting at. Certainly I do get a certain amount of Solaris feel from them; they ripped a decent amount of tech out of OpenSolaris (yay dtrace and ZFS) and BSDs were always structured more like Solaris than most Linux distros (base system separate from packages, base system created by installing mul…
I am not a freebsd user, been on linux since 1992, but most of the time I read something about freebsd users and it seems like they want to be some older unix, like Solaris or True64 or something.
It's great that other projects make other choices about default shells and other system design details.
I am not a freebsd user, been on linux since 1992, but most of the time I read something about freebsd users and it seems like they want to be some older unix, like Solaris or True64 or something.
SunOS was BSD and Nirvana as far as Unix goes. Solaris was SysV and quickly earned the nickname "Slowlaris". For me FreeBSD is the functional descendant of SunOS.
As for Linux I first tried it out in 1993 and was appalled that command line switches for most standard Unix utils had been arbitrarily remapped. Tried FreeBSD 1.0 when it came out and never looked back. Of course I use Linux in AWS and various servers at work and regularly experiment with Linux distros on personal machines but it always feels a bit "off".
I wonder how many other greybeards that cut their teeth on SunOS prefer FreeBSD over Linux today?
We once upgraded a major research department from csh to tcsh (while also migrating most users to bash). A senior leader complained that when they hit the up arrow, the last command they typed showed up. I explained how to disable readline
That says a thing or too about habits. Was he pissed or was it just a light comment ? I'd be sad to see an educated person refuse interesting new tricks (readline causes no regression or loss right ?)
At this point I don't want to learn any new tricks, either. I'm sticking with bash for the rest of my life.
In the recent history sh(1) has gain the missing features for it to become a usable interractive shell: - command completion - ... Too much bloat for my tastes.
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That says a thing or too about habits. Was he pissed or was it just a light comment ? I'd be sad to see an educated person refuse interesting new tricks (readline causes no regression or loss right ?)
he was pissed! and, really didn't like terminal colors when you ran 'ls' (so I showed how to unalias ls) At this point I don't want to learn any new tricks, either. I'm sticking with bash for the rest of my life.
I'm quite shocked
I'm not 20 something either, I'm not chasing new shiny.. but a simple history access (arrows or search) is not an invasive disruptive toy feature..
alas
We once upgraded a major research department from csh to tcsh (while also migrating most users to bash). A senior leader complained that when they hit the up arrow, the last command they typed showed up. I explained how to disable readline