Live data from Hacker News

Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

ruetir.com

21–30 of 405 posts

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#21
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you cant, there isn't any room.

Yes there is. Amsterdam has about a quarter the population density of Paris

Yes, first raze everything to the ground so we can rebuild at a different density.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#22
post #7
post #4

Good riddance

Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

Yea... who are the neighbors of those flats to decide to protest loud and rude tourists that disturb the piece and quiet of their homes, eh?

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#23

If I were a western city, I would simply build enough housing for residents and visitors.

Yeah, then I believe you gotta read this [1] and this [2].

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/27/buildi...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/may/30/readers-reply-...

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#24
post #9

So essentially 80% were not properly registered and paying taxes? I’m not that surprised, once a good double-digit number are cheating, cheating becomes the only viable way to remain competitive.

It's not about taxes, its about making it easier for the city to enforce the ban on short-term rentals.

It is definitely about both. And about returning the city to citizens who've been priced out by the tourism industry.

There's nothing wrong with being a cultural hot-ground, a travel destination, a mindshare icon... but turning a city into an intensive farming Disneyland is another thing.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#25
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

A flat owner is not an atomic actor. If you purchase a flat, it's under the implicit assumption that you or your family will be the only ones occupying it. I live in Sweden and most "condo" associations (bostadsrätt) have rules regarding short-term hires and subletting. I imagine it is the same in the Netherlands.

> it's under the implicit assumption that you or your family will be the only ones occupying it.

Says who? This is a rather bold assumption to make and does not have any connection with the reality in most of the world.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#26
post #7
post #4

Good riddance

Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

The owners still decide what to do with it. They just decided to stop listing their apartments because now it's very conspicuous that they are breaking the law by not paying taxes, having proper insurance, safety conditions, etc. for such an endeavor. The ones who were operating legally still advertise their listings.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#27
post #9

So essentially 80% were not properly registered and paying taxes? I’m not that surprised, once a good double-digit number are cheating, cheating becomes the only viable way to remain competitive.

> The number is linked to an address, which makes it possible to check whether landlords are complying with municipal regulations regarding the maximum number of rental nights allowed.

I think the problems wasn‘t that they were not paying taxes, but that they operated private apartments as hotels without permission.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#28
post #7
post #4

Good riddance

Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

We have planning, zoning and safety laws for a reason. The owners of a flat can decide to do what they like within those parameters.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#29
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you cant, there isn't any room.

Yes there is. Amsterdam has about a quarter the population density of Paris

Amsterdam is closer in concept to a Flemish trade town than to an imperial core like the French capital.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#30
It is worth noting that according to a (Dutch language) article I read this morning, 90% of the listings that were removed had not been booked in the last year according to an Airbnb spokesperson.

Paywalled Dutch language link: https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/airbnb-raakt-dr...

Post reply on HN