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SUVs are offsetting EV car gains

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Re: SUVs are offsetting EV car gains

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Meanwhile the German city Tübingen is raising the parking fee for SUVs by 6 times and other cities are thinking about this as well. They are too big for those cities. https://www.rtl.de/cms/tuebingen-parkgebuehren-fuer-suv-fahr...

Great. The rich can park while the poor cannot afford.

Who drives SUVs?

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Meanwhile the German city Tübingen is raising the parking fee for SUVs by 6 times and other cities are thinking about this as well. They are too big for those cities. https://www.rtl.de/cms/tuebingen-parkgebuehren-fuer-suv-fahr...

Great. The rich can park while the poor cannot afford.

The poor already cant afford an SUV.

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Meanwhile the German city Tübingen is raising the parking fee for SUVs by 6 times and other cities are thinking about this as well. They are too big for those cities. https://www.rtl.de/cms/tuebingen-parkgebuehren-fuer-suv-fahr...

Great. The rich can park while the poor cannot afford.

And in which World exactly do "the poor" drive SUVs?

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Meanwhile the German city Tübingen is raising the parking fee for SUVs by 6 times and other cities are thinking about this as well. They are too big for those cities. https://www.rtl.de/cms/tuebingen-parkgebuehren-fuer-suv-fahr...

Great. The rich can park while the poor cannot afford.

That’s the point. It’s the point of so many things. If you can’t pay to offset the problem you impose on someone, you sometimes can’t impose on them.

That’s the idea.

Re: SUVs are offsetting EV car gains

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What about the EVs that can be classified as SUV? In Norway this is some of the most popular EVs..

These are much more expensive than your regular EV you pay extra for EV + EV being SUV in Ireland those start at prices between 70k-100k and something like Renault Zoe or Tesla non suv cost below 55k. In most of Europe at this stage EV is something upper middle class buys to show off that they can afford going into this new trend, middle and lower class still can’t even afford entry model EV for 20-30k and will conti…

Do you have a source for "to show off that they can afford going into this new trend" or is this just some stupid assumption?

I drive an SUV EV because I a) can charge at home, b) have a big dog and need the space, c) electricity is cheap here, and d) there does not seem to be an EV "Kombi" yet, which would be the perfect middle ground. I don't care what others think. Your second part of your sentence might be true, but the first one is just a silly assumption.

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SUVs have much lesser chance of going mainstream than EVs in India. The fuel prices here are off the charts, and mileage is generally considered a very important factor in household purchases of cars.

SUVs are already mainstream in India. In 2020, SUVs accounted for 29% of all car sales and suffered the least hit from covid sales decline.

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Alternatively, the 536 hp, 5018 lbs (2276 kg) BMW i4 ("1,000 lbs (454 kg) more than most other 3 and 4 Series BMWs", not known as lightweight cars in the first place) apparently "is the electric BMW sedan you’ve been waiting for". New ways of wasting energy in maximum comfort, all around. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/10/the-2023-bmw-i4-is-the-...

>New ways of wasting energy in maximum comfort, all around. "Over the course of 267 miles (430 km) and 8 hours, the car used 2.6 miles/kWh (23.7 kWh/100 km), bearing in mind that those miles were all driven in Germany and include running at the car's top speed of 140 mph (225 km) on derestricted autobahns." ie. around 100 mpg. It is not even close to "waste", it is saving the planet in maximum comfort.

100mpg in non-city driving is an improvement over the average driver but not a game-changing one; that's maybe 40% better than a small car, and significantly worse than a light motorbike. When you take into account the increased road wear and space taken up it might even be a net negative on the whole.

Re: SUVs are offsetting EV car gains

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great. The rich can park while the poor cannot afford.

And in which World exactly do "the poor" drive SUVs?

Worse than that, poor people's bus or bike journeys end up being impeded by road hogging SUV's and other single occupancy vehicles.
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