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Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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In a few years we will be hearing about all the food deserts in San Francisco and how they stem from racism and white supremacy...

Historic racism -> Intergenerational poverty -> Crime -> Area divestment -> Food desert.

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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In a few years we will be hearing about all the food deserts in San Francisco and how they stem from racism and white supremacy...

It's pretty unlikely that Walgreens is included in the USDA's definition of a food desert. I believe the most nutritious things available for sale there are dry cereal and maybe bananas.

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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In a few years we will be hearing about all the food deserts in San Francisco and how they stem from racism and white supremacy...

It's pretty unlikely that Walgreens is included in the USDA's definition of a food desert. I believe the most nutritious things available for sale there are dry cereal and maybe bananas.

Depends on the Walgreens location. Some have effectively a little grocer inside (gallons of milk, some fruits and vegetables, pasta, bread, etc.).

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Francisco never defunded the police. (IIRC, voters passed a measure eliminating a mininum funding mandate, but the actual budget has increased.) The SFPD may choose not to enforce laws, but I don't think anyone outside of SFPD directed that, it's just organized nonfeasance as leadership political protest.

> organized nonfeasance as leadership political protest Nope, this is fake news. You should learn more about your DA Chesa Boudin. He rarely brings cases to trial, fired a bunch of prosecutors and 30 others have left, and removed cash bail which puts repeat offenders right back on the street after arrest.

The police don't want to arrest criminals and fill out paperwork if the people they pick up aren't going to be held. That's a knock on effect of what you're describing.

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most Walgreens don’t have dedicated security guards. If these stores had guards working all operating hours (2-3 shifts per day, every day) and some stores might have employed multiple security guards, the multiple is there.

I want to add to your comment, that the problem with Walgreens security in SF is well known, far before the issues with the changes in the law took front and center. I actually had a conversation with a friend about how bad their security was back in 2007. The issue is purely one of store layout and design. They could easily fix that and solve most of the problem.

I feel like criminals are also abundantly aware at this point they won't face prosecution from SF's DA, so feel agency to commit "minor" crimes like this with impunity. But most of the SF stores do have a very old-school layout.

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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post #16

> During this time to help combat this issue, we increased our investments in security measures in stores across the city to 46 times our chain average in an effort to provide a safe environment.” I wonder how they arrived at this number of 46x. 46x the chain average of single minutes spent reviewing security staff resumes? 46x the chain average of security camera photos sent to LEOs? 46x the average number of bic li…

36x 0.5 cents is 18 dollars. So they started spending on security and it made them unprofitable perhaps. Retail runs on razor thin margins, so there may be some substance to this 36x number.

> 36x 0.5 cents is 18 dollars.

That would be 18 cents.

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty unlikely that Walgreens is included in the USDA's definition of a food desert. I believe the most nutritious things available for sale there are dry cereal and maybe bananas.

Depends on the Walgreens location. Some have effectively a little grocer inside (gallons of milk, some fruits and vegetables, pasta, bread, etc.).

I'm sure it varies by area, but in NYC I've never seen vegetables in a Walgreens (or DR, or Rite-Aid, &c.). They sometimes have milk and eggs, but it's usually the smaller packages (half a gallon or less / half a dozen respectively) and the dry goods that aren't cereal tend to be smaller or "instant" varieties (pouched rice and pasta is what I've seen). I think you'd struggle to healthfully feed an individual with just a Walgreens, much less a family.

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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post #21

In a few years we will be hearing about all the food deserts in San Francisco and how they stem from racism and white supremacy...

Historic racism -> Intergenerational poverty -> Crime -> Area divestment -> Food desert.

That's fascinating. I grew up in an area - Appalachia, specifically an area among the poorest regions east of the Mississippi - with entrenched forever poverty, and vast underinvestment in pretty much every way you could name. It never occurred to anyone to put together organized retail crime gangs and endlessly plunder local stores until they were all forced to close.

What other excuses do you have?

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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> "This is a sad day for San Francisco," Safai said. "We can't continue to let these anchor institutions close that so many people rely on." This is the conclusion reached by that spokesperson? I guess the solution is to outlaw closing private stores in areas where they are needed. How outrageous that they should try to turn a profit there while the people need their goods /s Literally sounds like a chapter from Atla…

It's not his most artful turn of phrase, but if you read the context of the remarks, I think Safai is saying "we can't continue to let them close" as in "we can't continue to allow these conditions which are forcing them to close," not as in "government should mandate that they stay open."

Maybe, but government has a history of forcing bad things on business.

Re: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to 'organized retail crime'

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Turns out defunding the police and not enforcing laws has consequences.

SF went from $668 million in 19/20 to $661 million in 20/21 for the SFPD, mainly due to police not being required as much at SFO. If the police can't stop crime and enforce the laws of 47 square miles and 874,961 residents for the princely sum of $755 per person/year or $14 million per square mile/year what exactly are people paying for? Like if I told you that you pay $62/mo for a police subscription and this was th…

Police aren't good for much if you don't have a competent prosecutor who sees fit to prosecute criminals. Catch-and-release policing is a waste of everybody's time. And when the police misbehave, who is it that frequently neglects to prosecute them? The prosecutors, again. Who elects shitty prosecutors? Who elects shitty sheriffs? Who elect city councils and mayors who nominate shitty police chiefs?

All fingers point back to the electorate.

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