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Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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I still don't understand why Apple map is so bad compared to OpenStreetMap given that they contribute a lot to it (they are even the biggest company contributor to OSM). There must be a reason, legal or something, but why don't they just use OSM as a default for places they didn't map by themselves?

[1]: https://www.gislounge.com/openstreetmap-one-of-the-worlds-la...

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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This article is from last year but the latest iOS 15 updates show how mature Apple maps has become (see https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-15-maps/ ). It’s not just at parity but actually better than Google maps. It has beautiful rendering and easy readability, and I haven’t encountered odd routing issues for a couple years now. The added privacy is a welcome bonus. The only thing missing is a way to report police p…

While the maps themselves are excellent, it's a shame you lose out on Google's frankly ridiculous business data. I've had Apple Maps route me to a café that was temporarily closed, while Google Maps knew it was closed, for example. I find I prefer to use Apple Maps for driving because it's just a nicer experience (though that's largely due to having hooks in iOS that Google Maps is not allowed), but I still don't rea…

In my experience, Covid has screwed up everybody's data. Apple seems to pull from Foursquare or Yelp or something, but I've seen Google, Apple, Foursquare and Yelp all of the different, incorrect hours. I think some of them have added flags/fields for temporary hours because of it.

Apple and Yelp seem to make it really easy to give them new hours. You can either write them in or just take a photo of the hours and they'll do it. For Apple, you get an alert in about a week that the changes were posted.

Years ago, I noticed Yelp wasn't used much internationally. The well rated-places were often touristy. With Apple, I have noticed "food" won't have many good results in some countries. I feel like the same applies to Google, but since I don't primarily use it I'm not sure its fair to say that.

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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I still don't get it. Apple is a company people cheer for, yet it continues to accrue substantial and dangerous power. They don't let you repair devices, install your own software, or run your business unfettered. They spy on your files. They coddle and report to authoritarian governments. This monopoly is lauded and praised as it continues to get bigger and encompass everything one does. I don't understand it. It hu…

Yeah, it's extremely frustrating. It's like everyone's efforts to preserve our freedoms and control don't matter. All progress is undone because Apple's offerings are just that much more comfortable. It's a constant uphill battle against billion dollar companies who are always light years ahead of us in terms of software and strategy.

It sucks.

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is might be true but only if you live the US. In the UK, Apple Maps is not par with Google Maps unfortunately.

It's not the UK, but in Hong Kong on iOS 15, Apple Maps now automatically taps you on the wrist (apple watch) right before it's time to get off the public bus at your stop. It is freakishly accurate.

It's a very nice feature. I'm not quite sure of what metric they're using. Some busses can show real-time locations, others they obviously dont have that info. Sometimes it will ping me a stop early (if the stops are close together?). I do wish there was a way to either stop directions on the phone, or put it in low power mode. It seems to eat my battery on long bus trips if its just sitting in my pocket. On car trips with directions I'm often charging the phone. On the bus or when walking I'm often not.

In practice, there are still some annoying wrinkles. It often assumes I boarded a bus when I'm not quite to the bus stop. So I have to tap and swipe a few times to go back, find out which platform or when the next bus arrives. If you have a moderate walk to or from the bus stop, the walking directions are frankly bad. I often quit and redo that part as only walking to get turn by turn. I know the watch has a much more limited screen, but I end up having to pull out my phone for some of those specific details like the platform or when the next bus is scheduled.

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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Meanwhile, in other parts of the world it cannot even get the shape of land and country borders right. Here's an example on the border of Montenegro and Albania: https://imgur.com/a/B3aVJYH

Google Maps is better[1] but none of them come even remotely close of Open Street Maps[2] [1]: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.858832,19.3550722,13.71z [2]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/728419973#map=13/41.8835/...

Bah, these map both cannot escape being politicised. One shows Monte Bianco summit in France, the other at the border.

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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I still don't get it. Apple is a company people cheer for, yet it continues to accrue substantial and dangerous power. They don't let you repair devices, install your own software, or run your business unfettered. They spy on your files. They coddle and report to authoritarian governments. This monopoly is lauded and praised as it continues to get bigger and encompass everything one does. I don't understand it. It hu…

I have never needed to repair an Apple device, because they work well for the duration of their lifetime in my experience. When I have occasionally needed repairs, Apple does a fine job of servicing my product for a reasonable price. I can install every piece of software that I want on my Mac, and every business/startup I've worked at has used Macs as the default hardware so I'm not so sure about your "they prevent you from running your business unfettered" claim either.

tl;dr - the stuff you're worried about is probably moot to the average consumer, which is why Apple continues to make sales.

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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I’m using Apple Maps for the app that I’m developing now.

The alternative would not have been Google Maps. It would have been MapBox.

Google Maps will give app developers like me severe sticker shock. I watched a friend of mine get it in the shorts (forcing him to switch to MapBox). After watching that, I decided that I will never depend on Google services as a linchpin technology. In fact, it simply hardened my resolve to avoid third-party dependence, wherever possible.

When I started the project I’m working on now, Apple Maps had already grown to cover all of the US, albeit not as well as Google Maps. I’ve been seeing Apple Maps cars driving around here, for at least a couple of years.

I’m pretty confident that relying on Apple Maps was not a mistake.

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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I still don't get it. Apple is a company people cheer for, yet it continues to accrue substantial and dangerous power. They don't let you repair devices, install your own software, or run your business unfettered. They spy on your files. They coddle and report to authoritarian governments. This monopoly is lauded and praised as it continues to get bigger and encompass everything one does. I don't understand it. It hu…

Yeah, it's extremely frustrating. It's like everyone's efforts to preserve our freedoms and control don't matter. All progress is undone because Apple's offerings are just that much more comfortable. It's a constant uphill battle against billion dollar companies who are always light years ahead of us in terms of software and strategy. It sucks.

> It's a constant uphill battle against billion dollar companies who are always light years ahead of us in terms of software and strategy.

Yes, and these companies will use open solutions whenever it suits them. Some of these companies were even initially built on open solutions.

It's an asymmetric battle.

Re: Apple Maps' Acceleration (2020)

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I still don't get it. Apple is a company people cheer for, yet it continues to accrue substantial and dangerous power. They don't let you repair devices, install your own software, or run your business unfettered. They spy on your files. They coddle and report to authoritarian governments. This monopoly is lauded and praised as it continues to get bigger and encompass everything one does. I don't understand it. It hu…

Ever seen folks decked out in Harley-Davidson, NASCAR, or MOPAR gear?

Never underestimate the power of good branding.

I’m not an Apple fanboi, but I don’t regret choosing it as my main development platform.

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