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Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Re: Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Post by dahart »

metagame wrote: post #19
dahart wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used, or maybe misused, the term open source. You used “free”. The license & project used neither, and made no claim to align with opensource.org’s philosophy or definition. Whatever you call it, the source code has been released for anyone to read and “evaluate”, that’s what I meant by ‘open’. You didn’t answer the question - how is this sneaky, and how does it prevent using previous projects?

The Open Source Initiative coined the term to begin with. Using it incorrectly is harmful, and is how we've ended up with "literally" meaning "figuratively" in modern English. By insisting on the correct definition, I'm trying to prevent the same from happening to open source. It's pretty offensive to act like it's not a big deal to use something so essential to computing freedom in a cavalier way to intentionally le…

Literally has meant figuratively for hundreds of years, Dickens used it that way. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-lite...

There is no “correct” definition of the term “open source”. People use it to mean many things. If it has any license other than “public domain”, then it limits some freedoms in some ways.

You still didn’t back up your claims: what is sneaky, what predecessor does this license prevent use of?

Re: Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Post by minimaxir »

tmabraham wrote: post #2

The visualizer looks fun: https://twitter.com/minimaxir/status/1447679798822649856

I was joking, but it appears that StyleGAN3's new approach allowed it to develop unsupervised 3D maps of faces within the deeper layers, which might result in interesting things when hacked by researchers.

Re: Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Post by metagame »

trhway wrote: post #20
metagame wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument against it, presumably, is that "If you try and make us pay for committing crime, you won't get access to our toys anymore" is very strange and seems illegal, since the ability to play with toys should not stop anyone from reporting violations of the law. But at the same time, it's definitely legal, for better or for worse, as is pretty much any stunt you pull with the joke that is US IP law.

Is patent violation a crime? My understanding it is a civil issue like you kick me out of your property, and I'll kick you out too.

It is a civil issue rather than a criminal one, albeit still violation of law, which is why I used "crime" in the same way that the US government calls piracy and copyright infringement a crime despite it generally being a civil offense.

Re: Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Post by avivo »

I appreciate the section on "Synthetic image detection":

"While new generator approaches enable new media synthesis capabilities, they may also present a new challenge for AI forensics algorithms for detection and attribution of synthetic media. In collaboration with digital forensic researchers participating in DARPA's SemaFor program, we curated a synthetic image dataset that allowed the researchers to test and validate the performance of their image detectors in advance of the public release. Please see here for more details on detection" https://github.com/NVlabs/stylegan3-detector

It's important to see this sort of thing happening more and more.

Re: Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Post by mistrial9 »

metagame wrote: post #19
dahart wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used, or maybe misused, the term open source. You used “free”. The license & project used neither, and made no claim to align with opensource.org’s philosophy or definition. Whatever you call it, the source code has been released for anyone to read and “evaluate”, that’s what I meant by ‘open’. You didn’t answer the question - how is this sneaky, and how does it prevent using previous projects?

The Open Source Initiative coined the term to begin with. Using it incorrectly is harmful, and is how we've ended up with "literally" meaning "figuratively" in modern English. By insisting on the correct definition, I'm trying to prevent the same from happening to open source. It's pretty offensive to act like it's not a big deal to use something so essential to computing freedom in a cavalier way to intentionally le…

the word 'free' in English to decribe the software has been, and is problematic. It leads to a lot of heat minus light in conversation, it seems. I support direct GPL software, and, its important to make sure the person you are talking to, is using the same terms to mean the same thing, right away.

Re: Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Post by geofft »

metagame wrote: post #19
dahart wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used, or maybe misused, the term open source. You used “free”. The license & project used neither, and made no claim to align with opensource.org’s philosophy or definition. Whatever you call it, the source code has been released for anyone to read and “evaluate”, that’s what I meant by ‘open’. You didn’t answer the question - how is this sneaky, and how does it prevent using previous projects?

The Open Source Initiative coined the term to begin with. Using it incorrectly is harmful, and is how we've ended up with "literally" meaning "figuratively" in modern English. By insisting on the correct definition, I'm trying to prevent the same from happening to open source. It's pretty offensive to act like it's not a big deal to use something so essential to computing freedom in a cavalier way to intentionally le…

I agree with you, but I don't think anyone from Nvidia called it "open source" (I agree that 'dahart incorrectly did so). It's a shame that GitHub allows non-open-source code, but it does, and nothing else about it implies that it's open-source.

Re: Nvidia releases Alias-Free GAN code and pre-trained models, naming it StyleGAN3

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Post by urthor »

metagame wrote: post #3

You can't use any of it commercially. Nothing within is under an acceptable software license (nor an open source license, nor a free software license). Advanced warning.

Just run the whole codebase through OpenAI Codex, then regenerate the source code.

Can't copyright an inferred artifact ;)

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