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Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp

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Re: Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp

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Post by micromacrofoot »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #16
oppositelock wrote: post #6

I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…

I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fats and proteins which approximates eggs sounds like nasty factory runoff. I don't get this trend anyway. There are lots of perfectly good vegetarian dishes out there. Why do we have to whore out the food industry to the tastes of meat eaters in the name of saving the planet ? Can't wannabe "virtuous" meat eaters learn to eat vegetarian f…

I'm a big proponent of vegetarianism, and I think there's a lot of value in these "transitional meats." I've convinced one friend to vegetarianism over the years by cooking "meat-like" replacements for them... this is the type of person who might say "oh I've considered it before, but I could never give up hamburgers" to a vegetarian.

Overall if the goal is meat reduction, then it's a win if you can get someone to occasionally buy a transitional meat instead of the real thing.

I've had more luck trying to get people to eat plant-based meat-likes than cricket-based foods, anyway.

Re: Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp

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Post by smelendez »

tengbretson wrote: post #9

Its hard for me to understand exactly how the term "plant-based" came to be an acceptably descriptive name for a category of food. Is it so hard to just put the name of the plants in the name of the food? I think most people would be skeptical of going to a bar and ordering something off the menu that was simply called "Animal-based Wings."

Eh, it varies. I've ordered meat loaf, hot dogs, and fish and chips in bars. I've bought containers of mixed nuts without looking to see what kind of nuts were inside. I'm not a big juice person but lots of people buy juice blends without checking the ingredients.

Re: Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp

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Post by Jeff_Brown »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #16
oppositelock wrote: post #6

I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…

I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fats and proteins which approximates eggs sounds like nasty factory runoff. I don't get this trend anyway. There are lots of perfectly good vegetarian dishes out there. Why do we have to whore out the food industry to the tastes of meat eaters in the name of saving the planet ? Can't wannabe "virtuous" meat eaters learn to eat vegetarian f…

Say what you will about the consumers, but making plant-based food that appeals to them is a worthy goal.

Re: Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp

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Post by vorpalhex »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #16
oppositelock wrote: post #6

I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…

I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fats and proteins which approximates eggs sounds like nasty factory runoff. I don't get this trend anyway. There are lots of perfectly good vegetarian dishes out there. Why do we have to whore out the food industry to the tastes of meat eaters in the name of saving the planet ? Can't wannabe "virtuous" meat eaters learn to eat vegetarian f…

Beyond beef and impossible have been successful because meat eaters are willing to choose them and like them.

Put another way, can't you learn to like an all meat diet without sneaking in vegetables or making them seem like non-meat? (Well, no, you like what you like, and you probably won't make huge changes without incentive).

Re: Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp

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Post by r00fus »

drukenemo wrote: post #15
oppositelock wrote: post #6

I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…

Good point. Another issue I take with these substitutes are the amount of ingredients used to make the fake counterparts. Whilst a burger is most meat, a “veggie burger” contains dozens of highly processed ones.

> Whilst a burger is most meat

Meat that is fed almost exclusively corn: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/that-burger-youre...

It's not exactly healthy either.

Re: Nestlé to Debut Plant-Based Eggs, Shrimp

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Post by throwanem »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #16
oppositelock wrote: post #6

I remember when margarine, and other plant based fats were being touted as the healthier alternative to animal fats, and in the end, it turned out that these artificially oxidized plant oils ended up being a direct cause of heart disease. I'm afraid of products such as these for the same reason, because we have no long term health data. I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fa…

I'm happy to eat plants of all sorts, in their natural form. A slurry of plant fats and proteins which approximates eggs sounds like nasty factory runoff. I don't get this trend anyway. There are lots of perfectly good vegetarian dishes out there. Why do we have to whore out the food industry to the tastes of meat eaters in the name of saving the planet ? Can't wannabe "virtuous" meat eaters learn to eat vegetarian f…

It wouldn't surprise me if this were less about saving the planet and more about hedging against the possibility that factory farming ceases to be sustainable such that prices for real meat increase enormously. Such a circumstance would create a huge new market for relatively inexpensive meat substitutes, competing on palatability probably far more than nutrition.
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