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AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next

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Re: AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next

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This is some great content marketing by Taloflow.

Having not paid attention to this story I didn’t realize they chose R because it was one letter behind S in the alphabet.

If Cloudflare was a smaller company they’d probably get sued pretty fast. That has happened for much sillier and vain reasons. But I doubt there’s much to gain via the courts in the current state of things. This seems to be standard price competition that all commodity like products resort to.

Re: AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next

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Wouldn't T4 have been a better name? sure it does create the risk of a U5, but prequels are not usually better. (Unless you love endless discussion about intergalactic politics).

Three years ago I sat in front of a whiteboard with some folks and we sketched out the future roadmap for Cloudflare Workers. Here's a picture of that whiteboard: https://imgur.com/a/nSnrT15 We went with "R2" because it better reflects the fact that we want it to be S3 minus one thing: egress fees.

Q1 will be R2 minus one thing: storage fees.

Re: AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three years ago I sat in front of a whiteboard with some folks and we sketched out the future roadmap for Cloudflare Workers. Here's a picture of that whiteboard: https://imgur.com/a/nSnrT15 We went with "R2" because it better reflects the fact that we want it to be S3 minus one thing: egress fees.

Q1 will be R2 minus one thing: storage fees.

P0 has already been built: https://devnull-as-a-service.com/

Re: AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next

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post #22

This is some great content marketing by Taloflow. Having not paid attention to this story I didn’t realize they chose R because it was one letter behind S in the alphabet. If Cloudflare was a smaller company they’d probably get sued pretty fast. That has happened for much sillier and vain reasons. But I doubt there’s much to gain via the courts in the current state of things. This seems to be standard price competiti…

If consumers are so likely to confuse "S3" and "R2" that a court would grant trademark enforcement to S3 over this, then Mazda could have successfully sued BMW over the confusion between MX-2 and M3, not to mention the total havoc such a court judgment would wreak upon the SMT labeling industry: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28777350

If Cloudflare had an entire AWS-simulation business and was making a clear effort to confuse customers about being "just like AWS, only not Amazon", then that might be an easier case to win, but Cloudflare seems pretty dead-set on being different than AWS (for example, they offer customer support), so that's unlikely.

Amazon might still sue just as saber-rattling, but that would open them up to a SLAPP countersuit, against a party that has repeatedly demonstrated that it is willing to fund lawyers to punish those abusing the legal system — not to mention being mocked around the world for suing over a two character product name with no shared characters.

Re: AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next

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Things get really confusing when you also use SAP R/3, migrating it to S/4: "So the S/4 gets some of its data from R/3 via S3 and writes reports to R2 which are used for a consolidated view in R/3 as long as the analysis isn't migrated to S/4 which will get all data via S3."

Re: AWS S3? Cloudflare R2? We think we know what's coming next

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post #22

This is some great content marketing by Taloflow. Having not paid attention to this story I didn’t realize they chose R because it was one letter behind S in the alphabet. If Cloudflare was a smaller company they’d probably get sued pretty fast. That has happened for much sillier and vain reasons. But I doubt there’s much to gain via the courts in the current state of things. This seems to be standard price competiti…

If consumers are so likely to confuse "S3" and "R2" that a court would grant trademark enforcement to S3 over this, then Mazda could have successfully sued BMW over the confusion between MX-2 and M3, not to mention the total havoc such a court judgment would wreak upon the SMT labeling industry: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28777350 If Cloudflare had an entire AWS-simulation business and was making a clear ef…

AWS has customer support
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