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Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

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Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm tempted to back them purely for Ranked Choice Voting. Will be keeping an eye on this for the future.

Ugh I support electoral reform, but why the obsession with ranked choice? It is the second WORST voting system after first past the post, which is what we have now.

Ranked choice seems to be the best one I've read about. Could you help us understand what voting system might be better?

Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

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One thing people misunderstand about third parties is that they don't need to win. If they're structured correctly (this is by far the most difficult bit), they can have significant political influence without ever winning a single election. For example, love him or hate him, Ralph Nader probably swayed the 2000 Election and had incredible influence over the outcome (for better or worse). Coming back to the Forward P…

The main issue is that third parties often have the opposite effect that their supporters want.

They draw voters from the more aligned main party, causing that aligned main party to lose elections.

Third parties hurt the interests of their own supporters.

There are good reasons why the Democratic Party tends to support the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party tends to support the Green Party [1].

1. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/us/politics/green-party-r...

Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

#23
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Meh. Look, I hope people begin to understand that "ideas" in politics are just about as valuable as "ideas" in the IT field; which is to say -- they're fun to have and they can be exciting, but they're also pretty much worthless without execution. A tough lesson: If you support a presidential candidate because of their ideas, you're unlikely to get very far. The President usually needs to be like the boring CEO of th…

Lol! Tim Cook isn't boring. But, I understand you're larger point.

Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

#24
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm tempted to back them purely for Ranked Choice Voting. Will be keeping an eye on this for the future.

Ugh I support electoral reform, but why the obsession with ranked choice? It is the second WORST voting system after first past the post, which is what we have now.

The worst voting system is allowing irresponsible people to vote.

Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

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The Platform page lists a selection of positions that I think would not be very controversial. https://www.forwardparty.com/platform Surprisingly, the issue that Yang is known for, UBI, is not on the list. UBI is, however, present here: https://www.forwardparty.com/whyforward I wonder if that was accidental.

The US already received a more politically palatable form of UBI when the automatic child tax credit hit. Couples making up to 400k get money direct deposited every month per child. 0% chance this will ever be rescinded. I would say Yang introduced an issue single-handedly into the conversation and it was implemented quite quickly without any discussion because of the unique pandemic situation. Will be interesting to…

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Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

#27
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm tempted to back them purely for Ranked Choice Voting. Will be keeping an eye on this for the future.

Ugh I support electoral reform, but why the obsession with ranked choice? It is the second WORST voting system after first past the post, which is what we have now.

Are you a big approval voting fan or something?

Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

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My immediate thought: no third party can succeed in the US first-past-the-post voting system. Then I visit the website, and the most prominent policy preference advertised is Ranked Choice voting.

OK, you've passed the first test!

Re: Andrew Yang Founds the Forward Party

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post #18

Meh. Look, I hope people begin to understand that "ideas" in politics are just about as valuable as "ideas" in the IT field; which is to say -- they're fun to have and they can be exciting, but they're also pretty much worthless without execution. A tough lesson: If you support a presidential candidate because of their ideas, you're unlikely to get very far. The President usually needs to be like the boring CEO of th…

Yet Steve Jobs used to be CEO of Apple so I don't get your point.
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