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Post by Zababa »

jedberg wrote: post #9

I think Apple would be an even more interesting company if he were still around. Maybe not as big or as profitable, but certainly more interesting. I wish he hadn't been so strongheaded about herbal remedies and whatnot. He had the more curable kind of cancer, had he taken it seriously earlier. As someone who has lost family to pancreatic cancer, it really upset me to learn that he didn't use his vast resources to do…

Shouldn't people be free to do whatever they want with their own life? I think that if he valued his principles more than his life, he should be free to do so.

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Post by mankyd »

Zababa wrote: post #21
jedberg wrote: post #9

I think Apple would be an even more interesting company if he were still around. Maybe not as big or as profitable, but certainly more interesting. I wish he hadn't been so strongheaded about herbal remedies and whatnot. He had the more curable kind of cancer, had he taken it seriously earlier. As someone who has lost family to pancreatic cancer, it really upset me to learn that he didn't use his vast resources to do…

Shouldn't people be free to do whatever they want with their own life? I think that if he valued his principles more than his life, he should be free to do so.

OP isn't suggesting what Jobs did should be disallowed. Merely they are expressing disappointment in what was probably a poor decision healthwise.

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Post by killion »

I think that Apple suffers from not having that person at the top with taste who was willing to say “this is shit”.

The overall software quality has dropped markedly at Apple and the hardware more uneven since he left.

There were misses under Steve like the Cube where there wasn’t a market. But the product was great. Now there is a market but the product is middling like the Watch. Yes the watch was started when he was still there but it has stagnated.

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Post by jamespo »

subsubzero wrote: post #14
spicybright wrote: post #2

Still wish he was around. Apple has made some interesting stuff, but I think it would have been so much better with steve at the helm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a big focus of his was user friendly affordable tech. Not luxury items like apple is now.

Well, I agree that Apple would have been even better with Steve at the helm. As for affordability apple has never been cheap, when the first iphone came out it was very expensive, $600 in 2007 which would be $791 in today's dollars. This is for a phone with no apps or app store and 8GB of storage which is really tiny. If we go back further apple products get even more expensive. The apple ii(released in 1978) was $12…

Typical for hardware at that time

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Post by bryanmgreen »

I've thought a lot about his legacy lately with the permanently on-going horror story that is Facebook and Mark Zuckerburg.

For all of Steve's flaws, from an outside observer like myself, it seems that his intentions/desires/goals for Apple, Pixar, NeXT were mostly, or at least equally, fueled by genuinely wanting to improve the lives of humans.

Among the rarified air of modern radical world-changing billionaire CEO's, anyone else think this is why there is a fandom for Elon Musk and not like the likes of Bezos? Because, again, despite his flaws, he seems to be at least oriented towards some idea of greater good?

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Post by smoldesu »

geoffpado wrote: post #18
steviedotboston wrote: post #4

oh wow oh wow oh wow

You seem to be getting downvoted, so to help give some context, these are supposedly Jobs’s last words: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/oct/31/steve-job...

Shortly after his... other last words to his family. https://nypost.com/2018/08/02/steve-jobs-told-his-daughter-s...

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Post by biggieshellz »

animanoir wrote: post #5

Mixed feelings about him honestly. I still can't forget how he betrayed Wozniak.

Or how he taunted Alvy Ray Smith because of his Southern accent. Or how his example continues to be used to excuse bad behavior today ("but Steve Jobs did it that way").

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Post by steinskeeper »

It was my dream to meet Steve. Would not have gone down this road of trying to build things I love if not for finding inspiration from watching him present all those products. Thank You Steve.

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Post by basisword »

This thread reminds me of the last Steve Jobs related thread. So many people bashing Jobs based on stories they’ve read having never met him and knowing little about him. People seem to think they even know his private medical history based on only public reports. So much judgement and criticism and it feels completely unnecessary. It’s the kind of pointless outrage type comments we tend not to find very often on HN, but Steve Jobs seems to bring it out in people. I don’t doubt there are many valid criticisms of Jobs but it’s depressing that a thread linking to a post about his 10th anniversary has almost no talk of the incredible contributions he made in life.
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