This is going to be one of those cases where the professor makes a well-nuanced detailed well-researched sympathetic statement, the press turns it into a headline that makes him sound like an insensitive clod, and everyone just reacts to the headline instead of the full statement, isn't it?
Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
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Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#22Nothing new here. 90%+ of people don't understand that either they're suffering depression from isolating from other humans, or in cases of healthcare, symptoms don't suddenly appear months after a disease or vaccine for hundreds of people like some episode of House. The 1% of legit cases are being let down because were being dragged down by the same mass hysteria that linked vaccines and autism. Chances are this isn…
Covid itself creates an auto immune response.
It's estimated one in seven kids will suffer long Covid.
The symptoms aren't the symptoms of depression.
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#23Well, I'm not sure what my sangha member had but she was perfectly healthy, a very active outdoors person, then she got coronavirus, and then was basically bed-ridden for about 10 months. Basically completely weak and chronically fatigued for that period. At least, I am quite sure that her long-term symptoms were due to coronavirus. I'm sure there are many false attributions though, as is bound to happen with such a…
Well, chronic fatigue syndrome is out there and has been suspected to be triggered by viral infections for long time. The community actually became quite hopeful when long covid came up that someone would finally listen. Maybe your friend has even found remedies among these long-term sufferers.
The people in CFS documentaries look as bedridden as those with long covid to me. So why does long covid get this much attention, while CFS remains obscure?
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#24Some guy says it's overblown and this is ranking on HN? Personally, I know several people who are not normally complainers or full of shit who have had some wild effects for 9-12 months after a bout of covid, including visual disturbances, extreme exhaustion, and loss of focus or mental acuity. I really don't doubt my friends who've suffered this. They're not the kind of folks who think they have made-up diseases or tend to malinger.
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#25The Times and Telepgraph have been minimising Covid since day one, even providing a platform for groups such as "us for them". Right now there are no mitigations for Covid in UK schools. One of the things safer schools campaigners are pointing out is the risk of long Covid (as well as hospitalisations etc). Example of Covid in one area of the UK https://mobile.twitter.com/DmodosCutter/status/1445303921300...
The question is why the Times/Telegraph (and their low-IQ equivalents such as the Mail and Express) are so keen to downplay Covid.
My hunch is that their owners are losing money on property investments and are desperate to get employees back in the office, who knows.
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#26The Times and Telepgraph have been minimising Covid since day one, even providing a platform for groups such as "us for them". Right now there are no mitigations for Covid in UK schools. One of the things safer schools campaigners are pointing out is the risk of long Covid (as well as hospitalisations etc). Example of Covid in one area of the UK https://mobile.twitter.com/DmodosCutter/status/1445303921300...
This sounds like a conspiracy theory. Have you been reading about this on Facebook?
J/K but the well of truth has indeed been poisoned hasn't it?
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#27Some guy says it's overblown and this is ranking on HN? Personally, I know several people who are not normally complainers or full of shit who have had some wild effects for 9-12 months after a bout of covid, including visual disturbances, extreme exhaustion, and loss of focus or mental acuity. I really don't doubt my friends who've suffered this. They're not the kind of folks who think they have made-up diseases or…
How can we differentiate COVID and lockdown symptoms?
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#28Not had covid, but about 2 years ago had a Parvovirus-B19 infection which triggered a reactive arthritis, which means 2 years later I'm still having steroid injections and my joints are more or less in pain. The medical summary is basically "sucks to be you I guess" but it's a semi-common side effect of a virus infection. So yeah, all I want to say is that virus infections are not a joke, even if you got through one…
And some viruses are worse than others. Some will hide out in your spinal cord forever and make an appearance when you're under stress. If you've ever had to watch someone go through an outbreak of shingles... holy crap that looks miserable. I had Mono when I was 15 and still get what I take to be occasional, minor resurgences of that level of total body-wide exhaustion, every five years or so for a couple days. A friend who had mono confirmed that he experienced the same. It's a particular, very identifiable feeling throughout your body - not too different from the feeling after the second and third covid shots.
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#29Some guy says it's overblown and this is ranking on HN? Personally, I know several people who are not normally complainers or full of shit who have had some wild effects for 9-12 months after a bout of covid, including visual disturbances, extreme exhaustion, and loss of focus or mental acuity. I really don't doubt my friends who've suffered this. They're not the kind of folks who think they have made-up diseases or…
How can we differentiate COVID and lockdown symptoms?
if you (God forbid) have covid symptoms, you'll differentiate.
Re: Long Covid is overblown and often something else, says Oxford professor
#30Not had covid, but about 2 years ago had a Parvovirus-B19 infection which triggered a reactive arthritis, which means 2 years later I'm still having steroid injections and my joints are more or less in pain. The medical summary is basically "sucks to be you I guess" but it's a semi-common side effect of a virus infection. So yeah, all I want to say is that virus infections are not a joke, even if you got through one…
I had a very bad flu in 2017 or so and could not smell nor taste for at least 4 months after I had it.
If we're sharing anecdotes here, I've been enjoying my chronic tinnitus for close to 20 years. It has developed after a bad flu and then never left. It's not a thing you can get used to, at least I haven't been able to.